[pianotech] Aurally pure octaves

Kent Swafford kswafford at gmail.com
Tue Apr 14 15:05:34 PDT 2009


The tuning went fair, but the piano was new and I failed to find the  
string loops up off the plate on the hitch pins until after the class  
was over. Boo. Hiss. Not good enough for recordings, I'm afraid.

Hailuns are OK pianos, BTW. I thought the piano sounded good at the  
recital that evening.

I came away more convinced than ever that whole sound tunings and  
OnlyPure Tuner tunings are chasing after the same muse. I must say at  
this point that I think whole sound tuners can learn much and bring  
more reliable results by incorporating 'PureTuner techniques.

Care to compare notes at Pianotech Live in Grand Rapids?   8^)


Kent Swafford


On Apr 14, 2009, at 4:06 PM, David Andersen wrote:

> Hello---how did the class go? Any epiphanic moments for anybody?
> Best,
> DA
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Kent Swafford wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2009, at 1:49 PM, paulrevenkojones at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Virgil has posited the existence of "natural" beats as theological  
>>> principle, not a scientific one. He would as surely reject your  
>>> representation of his perception as he has rejected all  
>>> representations that do not partake of his modality of hearing. It  
>>> is a totally circularly intertwined form of "secret knowledge"  
>>> argument, no argument at all when you come down to it, since who  
>>> can argue with "secret knowledge"? I speak from direct personal  
>>> experience here, since Virgil did at one time in our conversation  
>>> claim that god told him what to hear. It stopped me cold then, and  
>>> stops me cold now.
>>
>> I've been thinking about this. I went to my first Virgil Smith  
>> class over 25 years ago. My reaction was not so different from yours.
>>
>> However, that was then and this is now. For those who have read  
>> Virgil's book, they know that Virgil has written up his ideas in a  
>> slim volume without the religion and with a conscious attempt to  
>> not conflict with scientific principles.
>>
>> I was drawn to the idea that tuners need not listen to beats at  
>> their specific pitch levels, since I am one the tuners who has  
>> never heard coincident partials at a their actual pitches.
>>
>> Whole sound tuning is where it's at. It is not secret knowledge.  
>> I'll be attempting to demonstrate next week at the Central-West  
>> Regional Seminar in Wichita.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kent
>>
>

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