[pianotech] Additional Business Building Ideas (Besides YP)

wimblees at aol.com wimblees at aol.com
Wed Apr 15 18:15:45 PDT 2009


Asking how long it will take to fix a chip and buff out the piano?is like asking how long it will take to repair a broken key and regulate the action.?
Call the guy up and ask what he charges?per hour, and if he?give you an estimate?when?he's in the area.??


Wim

-----Original Message-----
From: David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Sent: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Additional Business Building Ideas (Besides YP)




But you can make the damaged piece look better...not perfect...better...I 
believe the Bay Area only has one or two poly repair guys.   Our Hamburg D at 
Stanford could use chip fixing and general buffing...I imagine it is a day's 
worth of work?

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Paul McCloud" <pmc033 at earthlink.net>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Received: 4/15/2009 5:04:14 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Additional Business Building Ideas (Besides YP)


>Hi, Richard:

>                As with anything, you need to get your feet wet.  Get a
>damaged polyester piece, order the polyester from Ruth Phillips along with
>the repair kit, and just follow the directions.  The procedure is not
>difficult, but things don't always turn out due to the nature of mixing
>small quantities of polyester.  Temperature and humidity affect the curing
>of the material.  Bubbles, voids, and other frustrating things happen, so
>sometimes you have to do it over.  I've been doing poly repairs for about 20
>years, and I still have some unexpected results.  But I know what to do, no
>matter what happens.  Begin with the black color, which is very forgiving.
>If you have a wood color (clear or tinted polyester) you are more likely to
>have color matching problems because the wood is sealed under the thick
>material.  There is no way to recolor (accurately) the repair so it can't be
>seen.  It's like encapsulating something under glass.  

>                Ruth Phillips often teaches a class in polyester repair that
>is very helpful.  You will learn a lot by doing the repair, and you'll see
>it isn't as hard as you might think.  It can be a little messy.  Just don't
>spill the stuff (especially the dyes and pigments) on the carpet.  

>                You will be investing some money in materials and buffing
>machinery.   You can do a lot of repairs by hand, but a buffer will broaden
>your range of repairs immensely.  There are many ways to go with the
>machines, and it depen
ds upon how much you anticipate doing  repairs.
>Believe me, you can make at least as much doing this as tuning and repairing
>pianos.  Everything you invest will pay for itself in a short time.  But, it
>does take time to be able to make consistent repairs in all kinds of
>situations.

>                If you have more time than work, and some time and funds to
>invest (between $500 -1000.), you can get set up.  The hardest part is
>making the dam so the polyester doesn't run out.  There is a jellied
>polyester that they sell which will stay put, but it's hard to use and
>messy, and the mixing of the color is sometimes uneven.

>                The bottom line is, anybody can do this.  The key is
>following the directions exactly.  With the right materials, the right
>machinery and the  right techniques, you will have a skill that is
>profitable and needed by virtually every dealer in the world.

>                Good luck.

>                Paul McCloud

>                San Diego 

> 

>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
>Of Richard Gullion
>Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:56 PM
>To: Pianotech List
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Additional Business Building Ideas (Besides YP)

> 

>How hard to get good at poly repairs...any ideas on practice...info etc...I
>have had several dealers ask me about it...but didn't give much
>thought...maybe I should.

>Richard the "Piano Guy" 

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>Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:51:10 -0500
>From: behmpiano at gmail.com
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Additional Business Building Ideas (Besides YP)

>Wim - I think the polyester repair idea is a winner, as far as adding to
>your business, especially if you would be the only provider available. 
>Here in Iowa, if I go 20 miles in any direction (as the crow flies, and let
>me tell you, we've got a lot of those) I would be in the middle of a corn
>field (or possibly soyb
eans). 
>    By the way, when you lived in St. Louis did you ever visit the Twin
>Cities of the South - Festus and Crystal City - just south of St. Louis?
>That's actually where I first started tuning before we moved to Boone. Chuck

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