[pianotech] Pallet Rod Stops??

Mon Dec 7 17:32:26 MST 2009

From: pianotech-request at ptg.org
Subject: pianotech Digest, Vol 14, Issue 58
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:17:44 -0700
Ron,
Apology's for the English misstatement.
Actually I use  4 mm 
But...what's a cm or two amongst friends.
Gerry C

Joseph Garrett wrote:

> However, most pallet  rods,  for  pump organs  are  not 7/32",  but  
> rather 3/16"  in  my  experience.<G>

In my world, reed organ pallet valves are 11/64".
Ron N

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From: rnossaman at cox.net
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:10:25 -0600
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Pallet Rod Stops??

I haven't seen these personally, but they say they're the 
right size for pallet rods.
http://store.perfectstix.com/11inmesk.html
As for the stops, I'd suspect you may be making your own 
before finding any for sale.

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From: joegarrett at earthlink.net
To: rnossaman at cox.net; pianotech at ptg.org
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:50:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Pallet Rod Stops??

My, my aren't we splittin'  hares!???<G>
Joe

Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
Captain, Tool Police
Squares R I

> [Original Message]
> From: Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net>
> To: <joegarrett at earthlink.net>; <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Date: 12/7/09 1:59:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Pallet Rod Stops??
>
> Joseph Garrett wrote:
>
> > However, most pallet  rods,  for  pump organs  are  not 7/32",  but  
> > rather 3/16"  in  my  experience.<G>
>
> In my world, reed organ pallet valves are 11/64".
> Ron N
>
>
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From: cousins_gerry at msn.com
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:51:57 -0500
Subject: [pianotech] Pallet rod stops

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From: joegarrett at earthlink.net
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:46:34 -0800
Subject: [pianotech] Pallet Rod Stops??

Rob asked: "I'm
wondering if anyone is aware of a source for some unusual size tuning
pin bushings. These have an extra small hole in them, about the
diameter of a hammer shank. In fact a hammer shank will fit perfectly
snug in the hole. Most bushings have a 1/4" hole. I'm really not
certain what piano would have pins small enough for these. I don't want
them for a piano, I'm using them for organ pallet valve push rod stops
and these are absolutely perfect for this application. I have a very
limited supply of them and would like to find more as well as share
some with another colleague who also does this kind of work. I don't
know where the ones I have came from, they were in a box of
miscellaneous piano parts purchased many years ago by someone else."

Rob,
Those, that you  describe are availble from Schaff :  page 95,  items  #345A-B-C.However, most pallet  rods,  for  pump organs  are  not 7/32",  but  rather 3/16"  in  my  experience.<G>
Joe 
Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)Captain, Tool Police
Squares R I

Joe,Rob,
3/16" is correct Joe. 
In the past I've made my own out of maple stock.
Bore drill then Plug drill.  A bit challenging to jig up but once everything is set rather quick process.
Does allow for exacting measurements.
BTW what is the piano (?) you're working on a Tom thumb?   Just curious

Gerry C, RPT
WCUPA 

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From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:16:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Agraffe Reduction

In a message dated 12/7/2009 11:45:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
davidlovepianos at comcast.net writes:
Another 
  reason to replace rather than recondition older agraffes, especially since 
  some of the older agraffe stem joints are already stressed to the point of 
  being weakened.  
This is particularly true of a series of Steinways 
in the serial number range of 235000 to 260000, I believe. Correct me, anyone, 
if those numbers are wrong.

P

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From: davidlovepianos at comcast.net
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:14:56 -0800
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Agraffe Reduction

I think it goes farther than that doesn’t it?  The flat
bottom agraffes certainly do anyway.  I still see agraffe failure periodically
on Steinway pianos as recent as 1970’s and 1980’s.  

David Love

www.davidlovepianos.com

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org
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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:17 PM

To: pianotech at ptg.org

Subject: Re: [pianotech] Agraffe Reduction

In a message dated 12/7/2009 11:45:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
davidlovepianos at comcast.net writes:

Another reason to replace rather than recondition older
agraffes, especially since some of the older agraffe stem joints are already
stressed to the point of being weakened.  

This is particularly true of a series of Steinways in the serial
number range of 235000 to 260000, I believe. Correct me, anyone, if those
numbers are wrong.

P

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From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:22:45 -0500
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Agraffe Reduction

Yeah, there's always occasional failure in all ranges, but my understanding 
is that there was a particularly bad batch (not threaded to the top of the stem) 
in that period. 

P

In a message dated 12/7/2009 6:15:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
davidlovepianos at comcast.net writes:

  I 
  think it goes farther than that doesn’t it?  The flat bottom agraffes 
  certainly do anyway.  I still see agraffe failure periodically on 
  Steinway pianos as recent as 1970’s and 1980’s.  

  David 
  Love
  www.davidlovepianos.com

  From: 
  pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of 
  PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:17 
  PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Agraffe 
  Reduction

  In a 
  message dated 12/7/2009 11:45:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
  davidlovepianos at comcast.net writes:

    Another 
    reason to replace rather than recondition older agraffes, especially since 
    some of the older agraffe stem joints are already stressed to the point of 
    being weakened.  

  This 
  is particularly true of a series of Steinways in the serial number range of 
  235000 to 260000, I believe. Correct me, anyone, if those numbers are 
  wrong.

  P

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