Actually, while it can be a bit of a pain, I would have tied a piece of string (or something) around the repetition spring on that grand so that note would have at least worked. It's better than a dead note. As for the lead, if it slides out it will slide out again unless a permanent fix is done. With that pliers, with the lead in place, it will squish the lead thus expanding the lead open further which will hold it in place where it belongs. You have to be careful not to bend the rest of the part one way or the other while squishing it doing that procedure or you may wind up with a loose flange or worse, a broken part in the worst case scenario. Either that or, use CA glue as was also mentioned. Another example would be that if a hammer flange pin slides out and all we do is slide it back in again, it will slide back out again. It needs repinning. That is, unless it has that small screw like Schimmel's, Yamaha's and a few other brands have on the reverse side of the hammer to hold it in place. In that case, slide the pin in and tighten those tiny screws again while holding the hammer firmly. Those tiny screws need to be tightened on occasion which many tuners never bother to do unfortunately which is also why Yamaha did away with them or so I heard. Personally, I took your post to be a teasing, joking one, not serious but not everyone may do so. In my learning years, I too, shoved things like that back in again in the hopes it would stay but, I, as you did, learned that it did not work... We all have done things like that in the past. I do hope you weren't serious about putting electrical tape around the part though?. :) Jer From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Todd Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:29 PM To: David Ilvedson; pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Damper Lever Problem Was that an indirect reference to stupidity here? Are my posts really that amusing? Well I guess they would be, since the word "amusement" means "not to think", and that is what I am being accused of here. I read an article once about the greater need for RPT's. I am beginning to realize why now. Hmmm.... Oh, and things are not always what they "seem". I wanted to know the proper procedure to correct a problem. One time I ran across a broken rep. spring on a grand. Now, I could of used the right side of my brain, the artistic side, and tied a piece of dental floss around the jack to keep it out of the way of the knuckle. But I said to myself, No! I will use the left side of my brain, the reasoning side, and order a new part! Or was this a time to be brain dead? According to your logic, I can be quite good at that. Matthew --- On Tue, 12/15/09, David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Damper Lever Problem To: pianotech at ptg.org Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 8:32 PM "Now Tom, if you didn't know me, you probably would think I'm serious here. Or, maybe I am." I don't think you're serious about your work...this job takes at least some mechanical ability. Some use of the brain to think things through...I don't see it happening with you... '-[ David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Matthew Todd" <toddpianoworks at att.net <http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=toddpianoworks@att.net> > To: pianotech at ptg.org <http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech@ptg.org> Received: 12/15/2009 12:24:38 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] Damper Lever Problem >Why modify a pair of needle nose? A small screwdriver works better for me sliding >the lead in and out. > >No, I didn't expect it to stay there, that's why I put a piece of electrical around the >lever and over the lead so it wouldn't move, but the player is hard on the damper >pedal. Now Tom, if you didn't know me, you probably would think I'm serious here. >Or, maybe I am. > >Matthew >--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Tom Driscoll <tomtuner at verizon.net <http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tomtuner@verizon.net> > wrote: >From: Tom Driscoll <tomtuner at verizon.net <http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tomtuner@verizon.net> > >Subject: Re: [pianotech] Damper Lever Problem >To: toddpianoworks at att.net <http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=toddpianoworks@att.net> , pianotech at ptg.org <http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech@ptg.org> >Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 2:46 AM >Matthew, >My version of a modified pair of curved needlenosed pliers for swedging in key and >damper lever leads. We recently and collectively posted several versions of this >type of tool . If the thing slud out did you expect it to stay put by sliding it back in? >You gots to change the movie if you expect a different ending. >Tom Driscoll >----- Original Message ----- Subject: [pianotech] Damper Lever Problem >> I had serviced a client's Pramberger grand about a month ago. One of the issues >she had was a sticking damper. Come to find out the damper lever weight had slid >out and was contacting the neighboring lever. I was able to take my screwdriver >and slide the weight back in. >> >> Well, I have a call back, because the damper is doing it again. >> >> What would be the permanent fix here? >> >> Thank you, >> Matthew >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091215-0, 12/15/2009 Tested on: 12/16/2009 8:46:10 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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