[pianotech] Do fourths beat faster?

David Love davidlovepianos at comcast.net
Fri Feb 6 21:50:26 PST 2009


“Stunning”, a bit overstated but  what I mean is that as one ascends or descends through the scale the tendency is to change the interval relationships of fourths and fifths.  Fifths tend to lose their slight narrowness and get more perfect and fourths then must become a bit wider.  While we may intend to keep the same beat rates with fourths and fifths in practice that’s not what happens.  

 

David Love

www.davidlovepianos.com

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:23 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Do fourths beat faster?

 

David:

 

The level of opacity of this comment is stunning. What on earth do you mean? 

 

Paul

 

ps I still owe you a picture of that fret file ;-)

 

In a message dated 2/6/2009 11:07:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, davidlovepianos at comcast.net writes:

Just to play devil’s advocate here, and with all due respect to the skill level of those involved in this discussion, sometimes there is a difference in perception between what we think we do and what we actually do.  That’s all I want to say.  

 

David Love

www.davidlovepianos.com

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:28 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Do fourths beat faster?

 

Well said! And ye got there afore me! :-)

 

Paul

 

In a message dated 2/6/2009 9:55:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, pianotech at a440piano.net writes:

SNIP

> We don't need to discuss how many tunings we have all performed to justify
> our knowledge.
>
> Regards
> Brian

Neither do we need to discuss how many theories and calculations we 
can/have/should be doing.  You've got the math worked out Brian, that's 
clear.  But before you continue shouting out against those who don't do 
mathematical calculations every time they tune a third/fourth/fifth or 
whatever, consider that there are many ways to achieve fine tunings.  I 
assure you, whatever chasm there is between you and David A. in 
communication, and in your chosen thought processes when tuning, when you 
listen to one of his tunings (I have) you'll simply have to accept that his 
methodology works.  David is an excellent technician and an excellent tuner, 
and however he thinks about how he does what he does is largely irrelevant.

Fantastic tunings can be obtained by technicians with a dizzying range of 
theoretical knowledge.  You like the numbers, others may not, but the 
results speak.  As author Piers Anthony once said to a class of english 
students (paraphrasing here) "I no more need to know the names of all the 
parts of speech to use them properly than I need to know the names of all 
the parts of the human body to use them properly."  And yes, we can break 
this analogy down, but the sentiment is interesting food for thought.

So, ease up on the ranting and ponder that it really might not be so linear 
(the tuning process, that is).

William R. Monroe

 


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