I went to view the file, and followed the instructions on the list here. I also had difficulty clicking on the link. I could not get it to open by clicking there. However, the .mov file IS there. If you right-click on it, and press "save target as", you can then go and get it and open the file with your player software. The video is very easy to understand (a little fuzzy picture quality). We need more of this tutorial video. Too bad the current technology only allows a fuzzy image. The audio is good, with the beats clearly sounding.
Paul McCloud
San Diego
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Sutton
To: Gordon Holley;Pianotech List
Sent: 02/28/2009 2:31:39 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning test idea - fly or not ?
Wierder than ever.
Try navigating from the main ptg.org page to Journal to Media Files.
Sometimes today I get a notice that the page is down, then immediately after I successfully get the media page.
If this problem is consistent, please notify me off list.
Ed Sutton
----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Holley
To: ed440 at mindspring.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [pianotech] Tuning test idea - fly or not ?
Hello Ed, the temperament video you refered to is not available on the PTG.ORG site
anymore. Shucks. Regards, Gordon Holley
Feb 28, 2009 10:02:06 AM, ed440 at mindspring.com wrote:
Duane-
The chances of the forks working for a piano aren't very good.
First, you will need a good set of forks (Walker blue is probably the best
available, though perhaps you can find a used set of Deagan forks.)
Second, you will need to control for temperature. Liquid crystal aquarium
thermometers are cheap, and work well for thse purposes. (My A fork is
calibrated to pocket temperature, and fits in a leather pouch with the
thermometer patch on the outside.) How to control the temperature of 12
forks will be your experimental discovery! Aluminum is too temperature
sensitive.
You could make a little box resonator to hold a fork and project the sound.
But meanwhile you will have the issue of inharmonicity to deal with. You
might get better results tuning to the lower octave, say C3-C4, using the
forks at a higher partial. This may be the "catch." I don't know how far off
the inharmonicity would throw the readings. You would have to buy the forks
and experiment, comparing the results to your ETD for a start. It might
depend on what piano you are tuning.
And you also will need to do a very accurate tuning to the forks. You'd need
to use a test note, such as the F2-A4 test.
Meanwhile...take a look at Eric Nickiforoff's One-Two-Three! temperament in
the March Journal. This is a great beginner's temperament. The video
demonstration is already up at http://www.ptg.org/journal-media.php. (And
this would be a free start...you'll be lucky to find a set of forks for less
than $150.)
In April we are publishing a temperament sequence by Jim Coleman which uses
A2 and runs from C#3 to C#4. Jim feels that many people benefit from the
lower pitches and slower beat rates of this sequence.
Duane, take your time and enjoy all the fine vibrations!
Ed Sutton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Conrad Hoffsommer" <hoffsoco at luther.edu>
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning test idea - fly or not ?
>I tried it years ago, but I don't think the fork set itself had a good
> temperament to begin with.
> One of these days I'll put them up against my ETD and try to confirm
> what my ears told me.
>
> What if your fork set flunks the test? Then what???
>
> Conrad
>
> On 2/27/09, Kent Swafford <kswafford at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Using tuning forks to set the temperament would by unusual but allowed
>> because you would be using aural techniques. Almost any CTE would try
>> to talk you out of this, however; our experience is that you are
>> likely to be disappointed with the results.
>>
>>
>> Kent Swafford
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Duaine & Laura Hechler wrote:
>>
>>> I think I can probably do the rest. But what about setting the
>>> temperament with tuning forks ?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Duaine Hechler
>>> Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ
>>> Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding
>>> Reed Organ Society Member
>>> Florissant, MO 63034
>>> (314) 838-5587
>>> dahechler at att.net
>>> www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
>>> --
>>> Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Conrad Hoffsommer, RPT
> Luther College
> Decorah, IA
>
>
>
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