[pianotech] Aural tuning question HEARING Stuff

[Gregor _]

There is a software for interval training. It´s freeware and you can download it here:

http://www.musikpaedagogik-online.de/unterricht/software/unterricht/show,16661.html

I didn´t try it, but it´s freeware. No idea how it works or what can be done with it.

Gregor

From: KeyKat88 at aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:48:52 -0400
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Aural tuning question HEARING Stuff








Greetings,
 
        It seems to me that a person who 
sings in a barbershop quartet has an ear and the concentration to hear 
tones within tones and keep track of which ones he has to sing!  Its 
probably then just a matter of some tutoring on the 
names of the tones ie; 4th, 5th etc, and then honing the skill by 
practicing hearing.
 
        By the way, thinking of the 
beginning of a song to get an interval? such as; Here Comes the Bride for a 
perfect 4th and so on...There is nothing wrong with that. NOTHING. In fact 
its best way to facilitate speed in learning!  Also, before a 
tuner gets the "exact note" they get the "approximate" note. 
 
        Take ear training lessons. Any 
music teacher with a degree will know what you are talking about when you ask 
for ear training lessons. Its just like anything else, the more you do it or 
train; the better you get. After you learn how to identify and reproduce 
intervals (vocally and on a piano, in all 
12 keys), then your ear may or (may not) be able to 
be trained to listen for beats. 
 
        Some claim they cannot hear 
beats. (I think they just aren't listening "honestly" enough to the blatantly 
obvious, or [rathr whats blant'y obv's to me])  First, I'd say even before 
ear training, find out if you can hear beats. Get with a tuner and have the 
person "test" your ears.
 
Hope this helps
Julia Gottshall
Reading, PA
 
 

In a message dated 3/8/2009 2:20:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
davidlovepianos at comcast.net writes:
A person 
  that is absolutely non musical with no musical training or talent
shouldn't 
  probably become a piano tuner.  By that I don't mean the ability
to 
  play, necessarily, but I do mean the ability to hear musically.  
  Tuning
is mostly learning to hear.  You can easily train yourself to 
  recognize
various intervals and then learn to tune them by the standard 
  aural
recognition methods involving coincident harmonics.  If you are 
  unable to
grasp what that is or learn to hear them then it is likely that 
  another
profession would be more suitable.  

Similarly, a 
  person lacking any manual dexterity should probably not become
a surgeon, 
  at least not one who will operate on me.      

David 
  Love
www.davidlovepianos.com


-----Original Message-----
From: 
  pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of 
  Duaine & Laura Hechler
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 9:29 PM
To: 
  pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Aural tuning 
  question

Maybe, I need to get to basics for this question.

I am 
  a barbershop singer, so I have a sense of what a 3rd, 5th, m7th,
octave 
  sounds like.

Now, assume for the sake of this question, a non musical 
  person that has
absolutely no other training and talent, wants to be a 
  piano tuner.

Without the aid of a ETD and has no concept of note 
  relations (3rds,
5ths, etc), how is he expected to learn aural tuning ? And 
  learn it well
enough to pass the tests ?

I don't see any other 
  choice for this person to use an ETD - and - never
be able to pass the test 
  - so - how does he get to be an RPT?

Duaine

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  Hechler
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Tuning, Servicing & 
  Rebuilding
Reed Organ Society Member
Florissant, MO 63034
(314) 
  838-5587
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