[pianotech] Aural tuning question HEARING Stuff

Tue Mar 10 01:02:12 PDT 2009

Sorry, I didn´t think about that. As mentioned: I didn´t check that freeware. But I am shure that there is some English software available for free, too.

Gregor

Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:58:33 -0300
From: jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Aural tuning question HEARING Stuff

I guess I have a problem with English too. 
:-)
That should be non German 
speaking.
John Ross

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  John 
  Ross 
  To: pianotech at ptg.org 
  Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 2:45 
PM
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] Aural tuning 
  question HEARING Stuff

  How easy is it for a none German speaking 
  person, to navigate through?
  John Ross

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Gregor 
    _ 
    To: pianotech at ptg.org 
    Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:41 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [pianotech] Aural tuning 
    question HEARING Stuff

There is a software for interval training. It´s freeware and 
    you can download it here:

http://www.musikpaedagogik-online.de/unterricht/software/unterricht/show,16661.html

I 
    didn´t try it, but it´s freeware. No idea how it works or what can be done 
    with it.

Gregor

    From: KeyKat88 at aol.com
Date: Mon, 9 
    Mar 2009 10:48:52 -0400
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] 
    Aural tuning question HEARING Stuff

    Greetings,

            It seems to me that a person 
    who sings in a barbershop quartet has an ear and the concentration 
    to hear tones within tones and keep track of which ones he has to sing! 
     Its probably then just a matter of some tutoring on the 
    names of the tones ie; 4th, 5th etc, and then honing the skill 
    by practicing hearing.

            By the way, thinking of the 
    beginning of a song to get an interval? such as; Here Comes the Bride for a 
    perfect 4th and so on...There is nothing wrong with that. NOTHING. In fact 
    its best way to facilitate speed in learning!  Also, before a 
    tuner gets the "exact note" they get the "approximate" note. 

            Take ear training lessons. 
    Any music teacher with a degree will know what you are talking about when 
    you ask for ear training lessons. Its just like anything else, the more you 
    do it or train; the better you get. After you learn how to identify and 
    reproduce intervals (vocally and on a piano, in all 
    12 keys), then your ear may or (may not) be able to 
    be trained to listen for beats. 

            Some claim they cannot hear 
    beats. (I think they just aren't listening "honestly" enough to the 
    blatantly obvious, or [rathr whats blant'y obv's to me])  First, I'd 
    say even before ear training, find out if you can hear beats. Get with a 
    tuner and have the person "test" your ears.

    Hope this helps
    Julia Gottshall
    Reading, PA

    In a message dated 3/8/2009 2:20:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
    davidlovepianos at comcast.net writes:
    A 
      person that is absolutely non musical with no musical training or 
      talent
shouldn't probably become a piano tuner.  By that I don't 
      mean the ability
to play, necessarily, but I do mean the ability to 
      hear musically.  Tuning
is mostly learning to hear.  You can 
      easily train yourself to recognize
various intervals and then learn to 
      tune them by the standard aural
recognition methods involving 
      coincident harmonics.  If you are unable to
grasp what that is or 
      learn to hear them then it is likely that another
profession would be 
      more suitable.  

Similarly, a person lacking any manual 
      dexterity should probably not become
a surgeon, at least not one who 
      will operate on me.      

David 
      Love
www.davidlovepianos.com

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      Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org 
      [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Duaine & Laura 
      Hechler
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 9:29 PM
To: 
      pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Aural tuning 
      question

Maybe, I need to get to basics for this question.

I 
      am a barbershop singer, so I have a sense of what a 3rd, 5th, 
      m7th,
octave sounds like.

Now, assume for the sake of this 
      question, a non musical person that has
absolutely no other training 
      and talent, wants to be a piano tuner.

Without the aid of a ETD and 
      has no concept of note relations (3rds,
5ths, etc), how is he expected 
      to learn aural tuning ? And learn it well
enough to pass the tests 
      ?

I don't see any other choice for this person to use an ETD - and 
      - never
be able to pass the test - so - how does he get to be an 
      RPT?

Duaine

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