[pianotech] Tuning in a down economy

David Andersen david at davidandersenpianos.com
Fri Mar 20 04:29:44 PDT 2009


This is an awesome post. Agree 100%. If you think you're a serious and  
irreplaceable professional, people will start to treat you like one.
DA


On Mar 19, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Ryan Sowers wrote:

> I disagree wholeheartedly.  Taxes are imposed, tuning is not.  
> Technicians should charge what the market will bear. I'm not a high  
> volume tuner. I have a friend who tunes over 1000 pianos a year. I  
> tune around 600. He's out of houses in an hour - I take 1.5 to 2  
> hours.
>
> Steve Brady made an interesting observation at one of our chapter  
> meetings recently. He was speculating that the reason why piano  
> technicians don't charge enough for their work is that they tend to  
> be do-it-yourself types who clean out their own gutters and fix  
> their own toilets. If you want some perspective on what professional  
> service people charge to make house calls, start hiring other people  
> to do these things. Steve told a story about servicing an upright in  
> an upscale home. When he submitted his bill the gentleman commented,  
> "that's a lot for an upright piano". Steve looked him in the eye and  
> said " I pay the guy who cleans out my gutters more than that". The  
> guy ended up giving Steve a tip and had him back soon after to tune  
> their grand.
>
> When I started going to PTG conferences in 1992 I heard the mantra  
> "charge more". It used to turn me off. It took well over a decade  
> before I started to get it. Of course if you're going to charge more  
> you should also be able to deliver outstanding service. One of my  
> rules about rates is that if I start feeling like I don't want to  
> push myself at my appointments it probably means I'm due for an  
> increase. The other indicator is if I'm consistently booked out 3  
> weeks or so.
>
> Every technician decides what his/her time is worth. I find if my  
> compensation is better I enjoy my work more and my clients treat me  
> with more respect. The quality of the instruments I work on  
> improves, as does the willingness  clients to pay for more extensive  
> service.
>
> Even though the media is beatings us over the head with what a "down  
> economy" we are in, keep in mind that our industry exists in a  
> microcosm compared to the overall economy. There are approximately  
> 500,000 people within a 50 mile radius of my home. I only need to  
> find about 550 of those folks to get their pianos serviced. Around  
> half of those are loyal, repeat customers.
>
> This year I decided to set my new rate by working backwards: First I  
> decided how many pianos I wanted to service. Then I decided how much  
> money I wanted to earn by servicing pianos. Then I simply did the  
> division. I felt some trepidation since it came to a $20 increase.  
> Other years I'd raised my rates by $5 or $10. Yet, so far work has  
> not dropped off at all. Surprisingly many of our clients are in some  
> of the outlying areas that are the most "depressed". The reality is  
> that even in depressed areas, there are still doctors, lawyers,  
> teachers, nurses, and successful business people. Many of these  
> folks love to play the piano and are willing to pay for a person who  
> can tune, regulate, and voice. Even people on very limited income  
> will occasionally scrape some money together to get their piano  
> tuned - and some of them have the sense to hire someone good who  
> will to the little extra things that make the piano play better.
>
> Don't sell yourself short, unless you really don't have what it  
> takes to be a serious piano technician.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:23 PM, pianolover 88 <pianolover88 at hotmail.com 
> > wrote:
> Raising your rates in a down economy is like raising taxes. It's  
> just a bad idea.
>
> Terry Peterson
> Accurate Piano Service
> UniGeezer.com
> "Over 50, and not "2" Tired!"
>
>
>
>
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:28:37 -0400
> From: wimblees at aol.com
>
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning in a down economy
>
> Ryan
>
> First, I have a web site. I just don't mention it here, because you  
> guys don't need my services. But it is on all my promotional and  
> advertising.
>
> I need to make this one point, again. Most of you who have been in  
> business for a long time might not remember what it was like when  
> you first started out. But if you were like me, when I started out  
> in St. Louis 32 years ago, I remember many days with no  
> appointments, and I would tune any piano, anywhere, for almost any  
> amount. Fast forward 32 years, and I am in the same situation. Only  
> this time, the economy is in a tail spin, especially here in Hawaii.  
> Tourism, which is the driving force behind Hawaii's economy, is down  
> 30%. That might not sound like a lot, but just think about your  
> situation, and what you would do if your business was down 30%. Add  
> to that, that I am not as well known as the other tuners. I don't'  
> give a (*&^%% what the other tuner think of me. All I am doing is  
> trying to make a living. And if I have to drop my rates another 10%,  
> to generate more business, I'll do it.
>
> Hey, for those of you who have more business than you can handle,  
> even after raising your rates, more power to you. But until you have  
> been in my shoes, don't tell me what you think I should be doing.
>
> Wim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Sowers <tunerryan at gmail.com>
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Sent: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 7:29 pm
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning in a down economy
>
> Don't lower your rates! Don't lower your rates! Should I say it again?
>
> We raised our rates $20 this year and are continuing to be committed  
> to the full piano service approach.
>
> Wim, I notice you don't have a website? This is a no-brainer. Get a  
> presence on the web as of yesterday!
>
> I know a gentleman who hired a minimum wage employee to cold call  
> everyone in his local phone book. This could be one way to generate  
> some clients when your starting in a new area.
>
> Do you have a business plan? A marketing plan?
>
> I think slashing your rates is a big mistake. Not only will it hurt  
> your reputation, it will also make a negative impression on your  
> professional peers. You might be better off getting another job on  
> the side, and keeping your rates up.
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:04 PM, <wimblees at aol.com> wrote:
> Tuning in a down economy
>
> A little while ago we discussed our work during this slow economic  
> time. While some of you are busier than ever, there are quite a few  
> who are experiencing a significant decline in income. I wrote that I  
> was considering lowering my tuning fee by 40% in an effort to get  
> more business.
>
> Some of you stated that I shouldn’t lower my rates, and that I  
> should only charge what I am worth.  That’s fine, but exactly what  
> am I worth? I know what I should be charging, but I also know what  
> the other piano tuners in Hawaii are charging. Although my “normal”  
> rates are more than the others, I wasn’t getting enough business to  
> pay the bills. So I had a choice to make: starve, or lower my rates.  
> I chose=2 0the latter.
>
> On Good Morning America last week they interviewed a couple of  
> people who had been laid off from their high paying corporate jobs.  
> These people were now flipping hamburgers, walking dogs, and doing  
> yard work to help pay the bills. The money they were earning didn’t  
> come close=2 0to what they had been making before, and they were  
> obviously way over qualified to do this kind of work.  But the  
> alternative was not to pay to bills.
>
> That’s kind of how I feel. My tunings are as good, if not better,  
> than the other piano tuners on this island. Although I have had some  
> clients tell me they have never heard their piano sound this good.  
> for the most part, I know I am way over qualified to work on the  
> majority of pianos. But, I have bills to pay, and if the only way I  
> can do that is to tune a spinet for less than I am worth, then  
> that’s what I have to do.
>
> Two weeks ago I sent out over 550 post cards to customers who hadn’t  
> had their piano tuned for a year or more, announcing a 30% discount.  
> In two weeks an ad will appear in several community magazines  
> offering the same discount, and even free estimates. Although I have  
> had about a dozen call, I have not had the number of appointments I  
> anticipated. I even had some clients who asked what the discounted  
> price would be, say thank you, an d hung up. I guess it wasn’t “low  
> enough”. But if I don’t try to get some business, it will be a long  
> dry summer.
>
> This is my way of telling those of you who are seeing a decline in  
> your business that there is nothing wrong with offering your  
> services at less than what you are worth. Hopefully the discounts  
> will only be temporary, and we can all go back to charging what we  
> are worth.
>
> Wim
>
> PS: Despite the decline in income, I was able to save up enough  
> money to book a flight to Grand Rapids. I might wind up sleeping on  
> a park bench, but going to a PTG Convention is not an option. It’s a  
> requirement. I hope to see all of you there.
>
>
> Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT
> Piano Tuner/Technician
> Mililani, Oahu, HI
> 808-349-2943
> Author of:
> The Business of Piano Tuning
> available=2 0from Potter Press
> www.pianotuning.com
>
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> Ryan Sowers, RPT
> Puget Sound Chapter
> Olympia, WA
> www.pianova.net
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