The Renner parts are still different from original Steinway (I am being pedantic, but they are) and here is a line from the German catalogue.. Grand piano hammerheads 6KmUd GL82/72 20Bass Steinway&Sons, not available in EU & NAFTA Grand hammershanks "Steinway", not available in EU & NAFTA I've never tried to order these.. it might be an interesting project, being a concert use instrument, why not get the whole action. I have seen a new action with wippens, with new hammers, and then the tech decided to save a few dollars by using Renner sourced shanks. He got grilled by Hamburg big time. Not as strict in the US? Brian -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Love Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 12:10 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Feurich of Germany Of course Abel parts are different from Renner. The Renner USA parts do have a slightly different configuration but are primarily designed to be used on NY Steinways. While Renner doesn't advertise the availability of the Hamburg Steinway parts, they are available. That includes hammers. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of PianoCare2 Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:59 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Feurich of Germany David It may be made by Renner. but.The Steinway Hamburg is a Steinway action. The flanges on a Steinway are slightly different than the ones available from Renner and Abel. Looking at the Renner catalogue, genuine Steinway is not available in Europe or the Americas. The Renner or Abel copies are the only parts available other than to purchase the genuine Steinway parts. Most techs use these copies instead of using the genuine parts. Same with hammers. It's all about the Steinway marketing...some people call it control. The Steinway action rails distinguish the difference between the Renner and Steinway actions. I was reacting to the point of replacing the original action with a Renner action. I would assume that the action rails will split in North America the same as they do in my country. Why not replace the original with a replacement from the source and not a different action. I would also assume that this piano comes from Florida? Why not argue the point that there are American technicians who could perform an excellent rebuild of this instrument without having the expense and time of sending the instrument to Germany. Brian Wilson ________________________________ From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Love Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 12:10 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Feurich of Germany Well, the Hamburg Steinway action is a Renner action. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of PianoCare2 Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:31 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Feurich of Germany Sorry to be a few hours behind this...but Hamburg does rebuilds. the whole lot. new boards, pin block, refinishing.. A colleague of mine has seen the rebuilding part of the Hamburg factory, and he saw some very good work. Why replace the Steinway action with a Renner ?? (fire suit is definitely on) If you are taking the effort to send the instrument to Germany, why don' t you send it to where it originated from. Would you send your BMW to Mercedes for an engine overhaul? Sorry to use this example.do I need another fire suit ?? Brian ________________________________ From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of RON MAY, RPT Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 7:11 AM To: Pianotech Subject: [pianotech] Feurich of Germany Has anyone out there ever had any experience with "Feurich of Germany" and their rebuild and/or total reconstruction of top end concert grands. Their name has poped up as a possiblility for the total re-construction of a Hamburg-Steinway grand. The thought is to ship the piano to Germany. It is my understanding that the piano would be totally reconstructed with a Renner Action, new board, block, totally refinished. All I along with several professional concert artists personally believe all is needed is new hammers and shanks and refinishing. Thank you for your input. Ron May No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.7/2085 - Release Date: 04/30/09 17:53:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/01/09 17:52:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/01/09 17:52:00
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