For me, that is my fine line. 438-442. If I'm tuning a piano twice per year, say, October and April, (I'd like to point out that it all depends on the piano, where it is and what they are using it for) then, if it is 442 in October, I might float it there because by mid November, it'll be on 440 due to the drop in humidity here. However, if it is in an auditorium, or something similar, I will raise or lower it to A/440. In April, It will probably be around 438 or so (usually) and I might float it there too, if it isn't any flatter than that. Because by June or so, it'll be on 440 again. If it's off by much more than that, I won't float it. If it's a yearly tuning, it'll be on A/440 each year or very close to it. Many times, like I said, depending on the church, location, or the piano's, I will raise and lower them all to A/440 every time I tune it whether it be monthly, bi-monthly or semi-annually. I'd say, probably 95 % of the time I put them on 440. If it's a concert tuning then, of course, it is always on A/440. If it is 436, 437, or less, I always raise pitch. I do not believe that it is good for any piano to just leave them flat for long periods of time. If it is more than 442, then I lower it. It doesn't me any longer. I rip it up to pitch and tune it. :-) -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Deutschle Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:47 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] (no subject) Jerry: And how do you know which side I am on??? Seriously, I believe in floating pitch also. And sometimes on a piano that is a little off pitch, but pretty much in tune with itself, I will tune it just a little closer to being on pitch rather than upset the stability with a larger change of pitch. But then I have to wonder where the line is between floating and tune-it-where-it-is? On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Gerald Groot <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> wrote: > Oh, I didn't side on your side Jeff. I was just a smart remark is all. :-) > I am for tuning to A/440 in most cases. While I believe that it is okay to > let it float occasionally, depending on where one is located and the time of > year, I did that today for example with a piano that was A/438. Give it 3 > or 4 weeks and it will come up to A/440 as our humidty increases here. It > was 37 % RH there today. It will surpass that pitch by 1/4 tone come mid > July to August here. > > Jer > -----Original Message----- > From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf > Of Jeff Deutschle > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:50 AM > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [pianotech] (no subject) > > Gerald: > > As I said: "This can be used as an argument for both tuning where it > is or for tuning to pitch." I am surprised that you side on the > tune-it-where-it-is argument. :-))) > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Gerald Groot <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> wrote: > >> I guess we might as well just tune all pianos 1/2 to 1 full tone flat or >> sharp, or wherever they are then with that theory huh? :-))) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On > Behalf >> Of Conrad Hoffsommer >> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:47 AM >> To: pianotech at ptg.org >> Subject: Re: [pianotech] (no subject) >> >> On 5/11/09, Jeff Deutschle <oaronshoulder at gmail.com> wrote: >>> Well, many teachers don't get their pianos tuned regularly, either. >>> >>> Also, I believe, that when there is a major pitch raise, the bends in >>> the wire move to new places, cause false beats in the treble (at least >>> for a while) and also cause instability as the bends straighten and >>> new bends form. This can be used as an argument for both tuning where >>> it is or for tuning to pitch. >>> >> >> Musing... >> Wouldn't that be that the strings are going back to their original (at >> pitch) kinks, thus _eliminating_ false beats which may have been >> caused at the tuning pin/capo/v-bar end of the string? The major >> movement would be at that end and very little at the bridge end where >> there probably are false beats from other causes, anyway. >> >> >> -- >> Conrad Hoffsommer, RPT - Keyboard Technician >> Luther College, 700 College Dr., >> Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045 >> 1-(563)-387-1204 // Fax 1-(563)-387-1076 >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. >> >> >> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 05/10/2009 >> Tested on: 5/11/2009 2:46:35 PM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Regards, > Jeff Deutschle > > Please address replies to the List. Do not E-mail me privately. 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