We rarely see a piano exactly X amount below or above pitch throughout the piano. Often the tenor will be flat or sharp of pitch compared to the rest. I use my ETD to assess the general pitch. I'm not going to lower the bass to match a lower tenor, etc. David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Deutschle" <oaronshoulder at gmail.com> To: pianotech at ptg.org Received: 5/12/2009 10:46:47 AM Subject: Re: [pianotech] (no subject) >Jerry: >And how do you know which side I am on??? >Seriously, I believe in floating pitch also. And sometimes on a piano >that is a little off pitch, but pretty much in tune with itself, I >will tune it just a little closer to being on pitch rather than upset >the stability with a larger change of pitch. But then I have to wonder >where the line is between floating and tune-it-where-it-is? >On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Gerald Groot <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> >wrote: >> Oh, I didn't side on your side Jeff. I was just a smart remark is all. :-) >> I am for tuning to A/440 in most cases. While I believe that it is okay to >> let it float occasionally, depending on where one is located and the time of >> year, I did that today for example with a piano that was A/438. Give it 3 >> or 4 weeks and it will come up to A/440 as our humidty increases here. It >> was 37 % RH there today. It will surpass that pitch by 1/4 tone come mid >> July to August here. >> >> Jer >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On >Behalf >> Of Jeff Deutschle >> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:50 AM >> To: pianotech at ptg.org >> Subject: Re: [pianotech] (no subject) >> >> Gerald: >> >> As I said: "This can be used as an argument for both tuning where it >> is or for tuning to pitch." I am surprised that you side on the >> tune-it-where-it-is argument. :-))) >> >> >> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Gerald Groot <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> >wrote: >> >>> I guess we might as well just tune all pianos 1/2 to 1 full tone flat or >>> sharp, or wherever they are then with that theory huh? :-))) >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On >> Behalf >>> Of Conrad Hoffsommer >>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:47 AM >>> To: pianotech at ptg.org >>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] (no subject) >>> >>> On 5/11/09, Jeff Deutschle <oaronshoulder at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Well, many teachers don't get their pianos tuned regularly, either. >>>> >>>> Also, I believe, that when there is a major pitch raise, the bends in >>>> the wire move to new places, cause false beats in the treble (at least >>>> for a while) and also cause instability as the bends straighten and >>>> new bends form. This can be used as an argument for both tuning where >>>> it is or for tuning to pitch. >>>> >>> >>> Musing... >>> Wouldn't that be that the strings are going back to their original (at >>> pitch) kinks, thus _eliminating_ false beats which may have been >>> caused at the tuning pin/capo/v-bar end of the string? The major >>> movement would be at that end and very little at the bridge end where >>> there probably are false beats from other causes, anyway. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Conrad Hoffsommer, RPT - Keyboard Technician >>> Luther College, 700 College Dr., >>> Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045 >>> 1-(563)-387-1204 // Fax 1-(563)-387-1076 >>> >>> >>> >>> _____ >>> >>> avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. >>> >>> >>> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 05/10/2009 >>> Tested on: 5/11/2009 2:46:35 PM >>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Jeff Deutschle >> >> Please address replies to the List. Do not E-mail me privately. Thank You. >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. >> >> >> Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 05/11/2009 >> Tested on: 5/12/2009 12:56:48 PM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> >> >> >> >-- >Regards, >Jeff Deutschle >Please address replies to the List. Do not E-mail me privately. Thank You.
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