Use the undercover. I never install anymore without one. The difference in efficiency is too significant, I've proved it to myself. Dean Dean May cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN 47802 _____ From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of tcc440 at netscape.net Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:15 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] pianotech Digest, Vol 11, Issue 33 Re.Dampp Chaser vs Moister King:: I respectfully disaggree with the initial post. My main objection to Moisture King is its surface tempature. If you want to know of what I speak, try this experiment.: Take one rod from each company of equal or near equal wattage, Plug them directly into the wall. Wait 1/2 hour Grasp each rod in your hand to see which is hotter It's a good thing that Moisture King is a sturdy unit, because you will surely drop it. Imagine a toddler under a grand piano reaching up to touch one. -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-request at ptg.org To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 8:30 am Subject: pianotech Digest, Vol 11, Issue 33 Send pianotech mailing list submissions to <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> pianotech at ptg.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech> http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech or, via email, send a m essage with subject or body 'help' to <mailto:pianotech-request at ptg.org> pianotech-request at ptg.org You can reach the person managing the list at <mailto:pianotech-owner at ptg.org> pianotech-owner at ptg.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pianotech digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: bushings migrating ( <mailto:PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com> PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com) 2. Humidity Control System, was Recent parts order ( <mailto:pianoguru at cox.net> pianoguru at cox.net) 3. Re: bushings migrating (William Truitt) 4. Bench plans (Chuck Behm) 5. Re: Pounding (Paul T Williams) 6. Re: Pounding (Porritt, David) Attached Message =0 A From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] bushings migrating Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 02:26:49 EDT In a message dated 9/3/2009 11:27:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, <mailto:defaziomusic at verizon.net> defaziomusic at verizon.net writes: I would suggest finding an experienced colleague and tackling them20together. Just something to think about. Joe: How long do these colleagues remain around you after being tackled? :-) Paul _____ Attached Message From: pianoguru at cox.net To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: [pianotech] Humidity Control System, was Recent parts order Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 0:58:46 -0400 The original post of this thread was a complaint about the business practice of a distributor for a humidity control system, Dampp-Chaser. Many responses suggested alternative distributors. I would suggest an alternative manufacturer to Dampp-Chaser, and that would be Moisture King. Although I reside within 20 miles of the Moisture King facility, I have no financial interest in that company. Dampp-Chaser's dehumidifier rod has a glass rod around which wire is wound to produce the heating element. It is quite fragile. Break the glass rod, and the unit is ruined. Moisture King's dehumidifier rod looks very similar, but is not so fragile. It is based on a patented design used by the US Navy for dissipating condensation from sighting scopes on the big guns on battle ships. They are virtually indestructible, and the Moisture King products are guaranteed for life. This product offers better quality, greater durability, and lower price. The Moisture King humidistat offers the advantage of being able to adjust the "cut-off" humidity level. While this may not be significant to many techs, the cost is significantly less than the alternative. The big failing of Moisture King is that they have no humidifying component. The humidistat has a jack to accept a humidifier plug, but they recommend a room humidifier from "Walmart." While the dehumidifiers, humidistats, and humidifiers from various manufacturers are interchangable, I am sure that warrantees would be voided if a DC humidifier were installed with a Moisture King dehumidifier and humidistat. Be that as it may, it is my opinion that Moisture King produces a far superior products, at a much lower price for dehumidifiers and humidistats, but their offerings for humidifying systems are inadequate. Frank Emerson Attached Message From: William Truitt <surfdog at metrocast.net> To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] bushings migrating Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:48:14 -0400 And if these colleagues are female, I would say that it is much better to ASK for a date... :-) Will Truitt From: <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org> pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org?> mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of <mailto:PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com> PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:27 AM To: <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] bushings migr ating In a message dated 9/3/2009 11:27:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, <mailto:defaziomusic at verizon.net> defaziomusic at verizon.net writes: I would suggest finding an experienced colleague and tackling them together. Just something to think about. Joe: How long do these colleagues remain around you after being tackled? :-) Paul _____ Attached Message From: Chuck Behm <behmpiano at gmail.com> To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: [pianotech] Bench plans Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 06:37:21 -0500 Everyone - Complete and detailed plans for building the collapsible bench which I displayed at the Grand Rapids convention are now available from Schaff Piano Supply. Catalog #1969. Cost is $70 for the black and white version, $75 for color (there are a lot of pictures), which includes shipping charges. I've built a lot of benches over the years, and this turned out the best of anything I've done. I believe it would be a great bench for anyone starting out building a shop of their own. I know I could have used it 35 years ago, when I was getting a start! If you would like to see some sample pages, e-mail me with the request and I'll send them out. This is written in Small Shop, Big Results format - hopefully easy to follow. Chuck Behm Attached Message From: Paul T Williams <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu> To:0D pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Pounding Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:26:12 -0500 Hi All, Have any of you tried the Steve Brady "forearm smash?" It will quickly tell you if your unisons are stable or not. I don't pound hard, but firmly. I see no need to whack the keys so hard your fingers and ears hurt when you're finished. Best, Paul From: "David Lawson Pianos" < <mailto:dlawson at davidlawsonspianos.com.au> dlawson at davidlawsonspianos.com.au> To: < <mailto:pianotech at ptg.%20%20org> pianotech at ptg.org> Date: 09/03/2009 06:28 PM Subject: [pianotech] Pounding _____ For recital and concert tunings I do pound. This is of course after I have set the pin. I am sure that no one out there is able to set every single pin in the block so that it will not move under heavy playing, by some of our over exuberant pianists, without pounding at least a couple of times. I feel that to be sure that I have set correctly, a few hard hits does no harm, and reassures me that the tuning will be stable through the entire performance. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.76/2344 - Release Date: 09/03/09 18:05:00 Attached Message From: Porritt, David <dporritt at mail.smu.edu> To: pianotech at ptg.org <pianotech at ptg.org> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Pounding Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:30:15 -0500 Speaking of pounding and health issues, I assume everyone is using some kind of hearing protection while tuning! Our ears are our most valuable asset in our jobs and when they deteriorate there's no bringing them back. dp David M. Porritt, RPT dporritt at smu.edu From: <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org> pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org?> mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Paul T Williams Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:26 AM To: <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Pounding Hi All, Have any of you tried the Steve Brady "forearm smash?" It will quickly tell you if your unisons are stable or not. I don't pound hard, but firmly. I see no need to whack the keys so hard your fingers and ears hurt when you're finished. Best, Paul From: "David Lawson Pianos" < <mailto:dlawson at davidlawsonspianos.com.au> dlawson at davidlawsonspianos.com.au> To: < <mailto:pianotech at ptg.org> pianotech at ptg.org> Date: 09/03/2009 06:28 PM Subject: [pianotech] Pounding _____ For recital and concert tunings I do pound. This is of course after I have set the pin. I am sure that no one out there is able to set every single pin in the block so that it will not move under heavy playing, by some of our over exuberant pianists, without pounding at least a couple of times. I feel that to be sure that I have set correctly, a few hard hits does no harm, and reassures me that the tuning will be stable through the entire performance. 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