[pianotech] Action Ratios

Delwin D Fandrich del at fandrichpiano.com
Tue Jan 5 15:32:10 MST 2010


Yes, I have done it this way since the mid-1970s. I thought everybody did
this until I took somebody's class and heard that they included both letoff
and aftertouch. Never have been able to figure out why. Neither are actually
part of the powered stroke. My worksheet is set up to use the actual
leverages of the powered stroke of the key action. I do not include letoff
distance or aftertouch distance in my calculations. In my opinion this is
the only accurate-or absolute-method of calculating the overall action
ratio. I prefer to leave out as many variables as possible. The resultant
action ratio numbers will seem different at first but you soon get used to
them.

 

ddf

 

 

Delwin D Fandrich

Piano Design & Fabrication

620 South Tower Avenue

Centralia, Washington 98531 USA

fandrich at pianobuilders.com

Phone  360.736.7563

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of David Love
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 12:20 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: [pianotech] Action Ratios

 

I'm having to revisit using distance formulas to correct a serious action
problem and in the process have been reminded (thanks Jon) of the
Baldassin/Robinson formula of:

 

(keyout/key in) x (wippen out/wippen in) x (shank out/shank in) = (blow
distance - letoff)/(key dip-aftertouch)

 

The left side of the equation is common to all of us who use that to
calculate the action ratio.   But the right side is less common and doesn't
really make sense in terms the relationship between action ratios and
regulation.  While the left side of the equation describes the relationship
between key travel and hammer travel unimpeded by let off (for example in an
action with a 5.5 ratio, 10 mm of key travel will produce 55 mm of hammer
travel).  But the right side of the equation doesn't bear much resemblance
to that outcome for that type of ratio unless my let off and after touch
dimension are quite misguided (I figure 1.5 mm for let off and 1 mm for
aftertouch-in reality I use about .030" which is more like .75 mm).   I'm
curious if anyone has actually used this equality to set up or make a
correction on an action.  If you use the right side as a guide it will tend
to set the target action ratio far too low, in my view.  

 

David Love

www.davidlovepianos.com

 

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