[pianotech] age-old question of what to charge for almost nothing

AAA Piano Works, LLC aaapianoworks at verizon.net
Fri Jan 15 21:01:16 MST 2010


At the last convention I took an oath to raise my fees.  I have stuck to my
promise, continued to tithe, and my income and client list is increasing.

BD,RPT

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Gerald Groot
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 10:17 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] age-old question of what to charge for almost
nothing

Oh come on David.  I thought we were done with this?  You do not appear to
be getting it.  Of course I explained that to them.  I omitted that from
this conversation for the sake of keeping the email shorter as it was
already too long.  To them, it didn't matter and here's why. 

I had done a repair on a good customer's piano that I had been servicing for
many years.  This person was a music teacher who gave me a lot of referrals
so I did the work as sort of thank you for about half the price of what I
charged the new client.  The new client's repair was very similar to the
music teachers repair.  The music teacher had told them in advance what I
had charged her.  Even though I had already told the teacher that I was
doing it for about half, the new client expected the same price but did not
receive it.  Regardless of any explanations I gave to the new client, she
didn't think it was fair.  

That's where I'm coming from on the freebee issue.  Giving away free
services to one client and not to another is walking on pretty iffy
territory in my opinion. What you are doing is no different from what I did
with my client.  

  
Now, take note that this took place well over 30 some years ago and is why I
no longer do it. Since then everyone receives the same hourly rate and the
same service call charge.  

  
David, what I see happening continually in this business and sometimes in
this forum bothers me and is wrong.    

1. Some technicians like yourself continue defending yourself to the point
of picking my email apart with little to no regard for my points made that
this is a business and should be run as such. Shall I return the favor to
you?  

2.  I see and hear many technicians constantly complaining that they can't
make a living.  Why not!?  If you're new that's different. If you live in an
area where there are not a lot pianos that's your choice.  But, if they are
well established like I am and still complaining which many of them are,
then they need to be taking a very serious look at what it is they are
either doing right or doing wrong.  There is no excuse for us not to be able
to make a very decent living in this business if we are fair, honest and
ethical. 

Making a trip out to someone's home to retrieve a pencil for less or for
nothing for the sake of possibly getting a new client?  No thanks.  If I am
going to get the client I will get them from having a good reputation.  

Jer 


-----Original Message----- 
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of David Love 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:18 PM 
To: pianotech at ptg.org 
Subject: Re: [pianotech] age-old question of what to charge for almost
nothing 

Yes I know.  I edited the entire post for the sake of brevity.  If someone 
calls you on what appears to be different billing practices, you need to 
work more on your ability to rationalize the differences which clearly the 
customers are not seeing.  There's always a reasonable explanation.  

David Love 
www.davidlovepianos.com 


-----Original Message----- 
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf

Of Gerald Groot 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 6:06 PM 
To: pianotech at ptg.org 
Subject: Re: [pianotech] age-old question of what to charge for almost 
nothing 

You mean you're not a mind reader?  

I admit that I type very quickly not always checking correct spelling as I 
should or, checking and missing it and sometimes I do not articulate 
properly.  I get so many emails from customers and other places that 
sometimes I just fire the ones off in here to be done with it. :)  

I was referring to the paragraph above in my other email where I talked
about

getting caught charging a good client one price and a new client another 
price.  That's what I mean saying "Not true as per above."  Along with, not 
charging, equals lost income.  Dat's alllllll.  Over n out. 

Jer 



-----Original Message----- 
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf

Of David Love 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:07 PM 
To: pianotech at ptg.org 
Subject: Re: [pianotech] age-old question of what to charge for almost 
nothing 

You just need to work more on your explanations.  

David Love 
www.davidlovepianos.com 


If one says as you did, "It's not hurting my ability to make a living and 
I've never had anyone that I've ended up charging say "but, you didn't 
charge so and so".  Not true as per above.  Every time we do something for 
nothing, we've lost revenue. 

Jer 



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