[pianotech] need advice for plain wire section on a S&S Upr (1880)

John Delacour JD at Pianomaker.co.uk
Tue Jun 15 16:03:22 MDT 2010


At 09:44 -0400 15/6/10, pnotnr at aol.com wrote:

>I used PSCALE to evaluate the existing strings, and while it shows a 
>reasonably smooth curve, it's at the bottom of the target for 
>tension, especially the bottom 3 notes which are around 26-30 
>breaking % and between 107 to 120lbs. tension.  And the tenor 
>section is right on the bottom line of the inharmonocity curve

The tensions you have calculated concur very closely to the results I 
get using my own programme, averaging 140 lbs.  The nasty break at 
53/54 rather spoils things but there's not much you can do about it 
unless you want to make a bridge  that crosses the bar properly. 
It's quite a common fault in German pianos of that era.


>I played around with the wire sizes, and came up with a better 
>looking scale, but it would add about 850lbs to the overall tension. 
>Is this too much?  (original scale total tension is 24703 lbs, and 
>the one I came up with is 25660 lbs.)

It's not the most wonderful bridge line but with the plain wire 
starting at note 32 you can't go far wrong and the 142 lbs. on a No. 
18 wire is fine, provided that the highest covered strings are 
designed to match and give a good break.

Have you got covered trichords on the long bridge, or bichords, and 
how many notes have you on the bass bridge?

What often happens, even today among well-known makers, is that the 
break between covered strings and plain wire has to be fudged because 
of design faults of two or three kinds.  In the case of this piano I 
think you are not dealing with the worst kind and that the break can 
be managed well simply by string design.  Of course, I'd need to have 
the lengths and type for the covered strings to be quite sure.  You 
have brought up the tension of note 32 to a good level and so you now 
need almost certainly to bring up the tension of the highest covered 
strings, and how this is done will depend whether or not you have 
covered trichords.

What you will almost certainly find is that the highest covered 
strings were designed to fall off in tension, maybe as low as 110 or 
120 lbs in order to meet the too loose plain wire in the tenor and 
fudge a mediocre break.  You can now have all your bichords 
(forgetting trichords for the moment) at a good tension, say 170 lbs 
down to, say, note 14.

Steinways being Steinways, you almost certainly have 10 or fewer 
singles, and this was, and is, too few, so here you do have to fudge 
the break in a way that you would not need to if you had, say 14 
singles.  The few (thank goodness!) Steinway uprights I've dealt with 
have all had a very bad break between singles and bichords, but this 
can be greatly improved.

Sends me the bass lengths, if you like, and I'll suggest a scale.

JD




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