[pianotech] Vacuum clamping bags

Terry Farrell mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com
Thu Mar 25 22:26:11 MDT 2010


Good Golly Greg, have you requested a price for a 20 mil bag of the  
size you want? I don't remember exactly what I paid for my big bag,  
but it was only a couple/few hundred bucks. If you are not doing  
production work where the bag is being used every day, you don't need  
a 30 mil bag - 20 will suffice quite nicely. And I don't know what  
kind of pump you are looking at, but I have....... oh gosh, it's late  
and I really don't want to spend the time to look for it - a small -  
really, quite small vacuum pump that works great for all my  
applications - even doing the laminated panel I built in my big bag -  
I think it might have cost me $250 or so. No more than that. I don't  
know what the heck you're looking at for $1,300, but I suspect it is  
something of industrial/high-production quality. If you are doing just  
one once in a while, you most likely don't need that level.

Terry Farrell

On Mar 25, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Greg Newell wrote:

> As I understand it the seams at the edges are no big deal because  
> that part
> of the bag is never stretched. The material going inside the bag  
> needs to
> have some clearance from the edges of the bag or, it is said, the  
> bag will
> tear. Naturally, I'd like to avoid this. I'm guessing that if this  
> were
> possible Joe from Joewoodworker.com would have both tried it and  
> mentioned
> it to me. I'd love to hear to the contrary but Joe said that he  
> couldn't get
> bags made for me with the 5' width. Seems almost any length is  
> possible but
> the bag material doesn't usually come in widths much greater than 4  
> feet.
> Vacupress.com has a 5X10 bag and a nice pump but it's still rather  
> expensive
> at around $1,300. That includes a 30 mil polyurethane bag. Just  
> looking for
> a better bargain I guess.
>
> Greg Newell
> Greg's Piano Forté
> www.gregspianoforte.com
> 216-226-3791 (office)
> 216-470-8634 (mobile)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org]  
> On Behalf
> Of Mike Spalding
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:59 PM
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Vacuum clamping bags
>
> I don't know. I've made a couple of bags from single width. It's fussy
> work, but not rocket science. Perhaps there is some new problem
> introduced when you try to go double wide.
>
> Greg Newell wrote:
>> My understanding is that this is fraught with failures. Joe
>> (Joewoodworker.com) himself couldn't sell me a bag of the needed  
>> width.
> Why
>> didn't he just glue them together?
>>
>> Greg Newell
>> Greg's Piano Forté
>> www.gregspianoforte.com
>> 216-226-3791 (office)
>> 216-470-8634 (mobile)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Mike Spalding
>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:32 PM
>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Vacuum clamping bags
>>
>> You could glue two or more sheets together for whatever width you  
>> need...
>>
>> Greg Newell wrote:
>>
>>> Joe's bag material isn't wide enough.
>>>
>>> Greg Newell
>>> Greg's Piano Forté
>>> www.gregspianoforte.com
>>> 216-226-3791 (office)
>>> 216-470-8634 (mobile)
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org]  
>>> On
>>>
>> Behalf
>>
>>> Of Mike Spalding
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:14 AM
>>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Vacuum clamping bags
>>>
>>> Greg,
>>>
>>> You may have to fabricate your own. Joe sells urethane sheet by the
>>> yard, glue, and vacuum fittings. It's not that difficult.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Greg Newell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Does anyone have sources for Vacuum clamping bags other than either
>>>> joewoodworker.com or vacupress.com? I’m looking for a size at  
>>>> least 5’
>>>>
>>>>
>>> wide
>>>
>>>
>>>> by 8’ long.
>>>>
>>>> Greg Newell
>>>> Greg's Piano Forté
>>>> www.gregspianoforte.com
>>>> 216-226-3791 (office)
>>>> 216-470-8634 (mobile)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>



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