On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net> wrote: > > Often, I do the pin spring thing and pull to pitch without overshoot that > David describes, then flex (not twist) the pin toward the string to kick it > over pitch and back down to see where I actually am and what sort of back > torque I'm leaving in the pin. If it's possible to tune at all without > overshoot, I don't consider it to be trustworthy let alone more stable. > Other times, I'll just pull it up and spring it back, etc. There are dozens > of minor variations of this sort of technique I use in different > combinations in different parts of different pianos depending on what I find > pin by pin. That's why I've said before that hammer technique memorization, > and even discussion in any detail is mostly useless in real life because you > so rarely do the same thing twice in a row. It requires continual processing > and adjustment. > > One constant, as Ed said, presuming that the string will render enough for > me to have any idea what I have, is to leave some back torque in the pin to > balance the string tension and friction. There's no way you're going to > leave a stable tuning without this. Sounds like what I do. Except I might do it in reverse. (Ahem ... sitting at home at a computer, it's hard now to say exactly what I do. Kinda don't think about it since it's more a second-nature thing. <g>) Seems like I move the pin the smallest amount it will move in the block (which causes some overshoot--yes. Then untwist, then flex the pin toward the bridge, then ease it back toward me, which brings it up to pitch, and hopefully stable. If a test blow knocks it flat, repeat that. I always overshoot by some amount. But it seems like it's the pin twist that *is* the overshoot. Once you un-twist the pin, you can flex the pin to see whether the pin and string are where you want them. I tend to think of it in these terms: any action I do to the pin can be undone. If I move the pin the smallest amount in the block, I can un-twist and/or un-flex it to the proper pitch. It's hard to explain with words. Like you said, we "so rarely do the same thing twice in a row." -- JF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20110201/94c96772/attachment.htm>
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