Chuck, very well said and I agree completely. And call for truce as well. Duaine On 02/02/2011 08:44 AM, Chuck Behm wrote: > >But, Duaine, what you don't seem to understand is that there are more > checks that need to be made, other than octaves and unisons. There are > progressive thirds, fourths, fifths, double octaves, 17ths, two > octaves and a third, all the way up and down the keyboard. Some of > these checks work on some pianos, but not others, and vice a versa. > Some time you have to use a combination, or at least know what checks > you need to make if one doesn't work. - Wim< > > Wim - I think the point here for a person like myself using a ETD is > whether I trust my equipment or not. In my case I do, absolutely. > > I've logged over 5000 tunings on my Verituner since purchasing it. I > didn't buy it in the first place with the idea that I would be going > back over every piano I tuned checking 3rds, 4ths, 5ths, dbl octaves, > 17ths, 2 octaves and a 34rd, etc. etc. If so, why did I purchase my > Verituner in the first place? > > I do know that the machine I use was built for one thing and one thing > alone - to construct a temperament for each piano I tune by taking > measurements of partials for each string that go far beyond what my > ears could ever tell me, and calculating the precise point which each > string needs to be set at to achieve the the best results. > > Going back over the temperament it gives me and fiddling with the > results would do more harm than good. > > Does the machine work? Wim, if I had a buck for every compliment I've > received on my tuning, I could fly my wife over to Hawaii first-class > to pay you a visit. Oftentimes, in fact, when I'm tuning a piano that > I haven't previously tuned, the owner will tell me something to the > effect that the piano sounds the best it ever has. > > No matter what my method may be, my hat is off to you, Wim and to > Susan and every other aural tuner for the skills you possess. Bravo to > you. > > My hat is off as well to Duaine and others who have argued their point > time and time again that using an ETD is a valid method for tuning a > piano. I agree wholeheartedly. Bravo to you as well. > > Before Jerry Springer is alerted, why don't we call a truce and put an > end to the mud-slinging? We are better people than that. Chuck Behm > -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler at att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home & Business user of Linux - 11 years
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