[pianotech] Octaves & Unions

Israel Stein custos3 at comcast.net
Sun Feb 6 15:52:44 MST 2011


On 2/6, 11:59 AM, Kent Swafford wrote:
> Israel,
>
> You are making many assumptions about how one might use an ETD in a rushed, touch-up situation.
>
> Who are the good readers here to believe? You, who says he never takes an ETD into a recording touch-up and so has relatively little experience doing so, or me, who has decades of experience taking ETDs into just such situations and so becoming somewhat adept as a result?

Well, Kent, please do share with us how 
you would approach a touch up using your 
ETD when you have 15 minutes until the 
next "take"...

Israel

> Wait. Don't answer that...
>
> The point is that we are all chasing the same ideal tuning and we tend to be rather good at those methods at which we are practiced. Aural methods at their finest and visual methods at their finest, or the two combined, produce great results. There is no need to claim one method is superior, especially since you might just be shown to be wrong when you do so.   8^)
>
>
> Kent S
>
> On Feb 6, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Israel Stein wrote:
>
>> Well, Keith, I am not comfortable depending on an approximation that is then furthermore based on an assessment of pitch drift - which could change gradually as I do the touchup and require me to decide whether or not I should change the offset here or two notes down the scale, or wherever, and requires me to pay attention to every note - rather than just the ones that are audibly out of whack. And in the real world of recoding sessions you run into all kinds of situations and all kinds of demands - reasonable or not. So in critical situations I prefer to use the method that gives me direct feedback on the final product - the sound - rather the method that gives me an approximation modified by an estimate and requires a double-check by ear anyway. In my opinion, the electronic alternative is too risky. And not because I don't know how to use it - because I do, and use it in less critical situations all the time...
>>
>> Israel Stein
>>
>> On 11:59 AM, Mr. Mac's wrote:
>>> On Feb 6, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Israel Stein wrote:
>>>
>>>> But if changing the pitch is inadvisable - why take time to adjust an ETD, when you have, say, 10 minutes to touch up a piano?
>>> Israel,
>>>
>>> Come on. 10 minutes.
>>>
>>> Any tuner put in this position is going to make
>>>     executive decisions regardless.
>>>
>>> Why make it an issue as to method of madness?
>>> It serves no purpose.
>>>
>>>> … Way too much trouble...
>>> It's never too much trouble to do what must be done
>>>     in the time allocated. It's what there is.
>>>
>>> Keith
>




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