[pianotech] Bad day in Truman

Alan Eder reggaepass at aol.com
Sat Feb 12 12:07:35 MST 2011


Paul,


Thanks for the advice.  I was thinking of trying this, with thin CA (hoping it would wick in far enough, but not sure if it would have the gap filling capacity needed).   I get the impression that you were referring to a thicker glue, something that would form a bond between the underside of the hammer molding and the shank rather than make its way into the presumed void between the shank and the inside of the hole in the hammer.  Could you please clarify this point?


Thanks,


Alan Eder





-----Original Message-----
From: PAULREVENKOJONES <PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Sat, Feb 12, 2011 5:58 am
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Bad day in Truman


Alan:
 
As a remedial fix for lesser pianos...
 
Pull the action out and hang it upside down on action hangers/braces. If the hammers are flopping around on the shank end, figure the strike line before you turn the action over and clamp up the hammers by section if need be. Then put a drop or two of glue on each hammer/shank glue joint while the action is upside down so that gravity keeps the glue on the hammer/shank, let it dry, and turn it right side up before trying to put it back in the piano ().
 
Paul
 

In a message dated 2/12/2011 12:50:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, reggaepass at aol.com writes:
Paul,
  
  
Might be     that the glue joints on the hammers were starved, and somebody had to reglue     them, forgetting to keep them in line as they dried.  I've done a lot     of these Baldwins with starved glue joints.
I have a client   with a Baldwin upright which may have this same problem.  Many, if not   most, of notes make a "loose hammer head" sound, although none of the hammers   actually feel loose when I tried to rock them back and forth (like loose   hammers always do on a grand).  Is that one of the conditions you have   encountered with starved glue joints on these pianos?  And is removing   and rehanging the hammers the most efficient way to deal with this, or is   there some other, slicker way?   I did not have enough time with the   piano to try removing and regluing one to answer the question of whether or   not what I am hearing is, indeed, loose hammer heads.   


  
Thanks,
  


  
Alan Eder

  


  
-----Original   Message-----
From: Paul McCloud <pmc033 at earthlink.net>
To:   pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 7:28   am
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Bad day in Truman

  
  
  
Might be that the glue joints on the   hammers were starved, and somebody had to reglue them, forgetting to keep them   in line as they dried.  I've done a lot of these Baldwins with starved   glue joints.  Just a thought.  I still like those old   Hamiltons.  Unless they have that awful Ecsaine.  Was it from that   era?
  
Paul McCloud
  
San Diego
  
 
  

  
 
  
    
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These are on a 30 year old Hamilton. The bass section isn't much     better. Probably hung late Friday afternoon, or right after the afternoon     "coffee break". 
    
 
    
Wim



 
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