[pianotech] Breaking Kawai treble strings

Don Mannino donmannino at ca.rr.com
Wed Feb 23 22:58:26 MST 2011


Dan,

 

The rounded / pointy top hammer with a smaller strike point stresses the
wire less - that is why keeping them filed helps reduce string breakage.  I
don't know that a super point would be any better than a proper point for
the particular part of the scale - but it's the string grooved hammers that
drive the string with a flat shape that seem to be the worst.

 

Regulation can help or hurt - if the letoff is too close or the jacks are
too far under the knuckles or the hammer blow is too large, there is more
stress.  Especially letoff, which is why people so often recommend lowering
the letoff. How effective this is, and how much it should be lowered, would
depend on the piano and how much compression of the action and letoff button
punchings happens on the really hard blows.  But the letoff will move as
much as 2mm closer on fff blows with many pianos.

 

But then, some pianists just have a talent for breaking strings, and those
who become teachers tend to teach their students to break strings as well.

 

Don Mannino

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of bergpiano
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:18 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Breaking Kawai treble strings

 

Don,

 

Thanks for the great suggestions. I did shape the hammers with string
installation. Could you go into a little more detail about how the
regulation would contribute to string breakage. I would assume it invloves
changing power and velocity. For the benifit of Paul and myself and perhaps
others I think it would be good to look at this a little more precisely.

 

Thanks

Dan

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Don Mannino <mailto:donmannino at ca.rr.com>  

To: pianotech at ptg.org 

Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:46 PM

Subject: Re: [pianotech] Breaking Kawai treble strings

 

Daniel,

 

Did you also shape the hammers?  The hammer shape and the regulation will
affect this as well.

 

But in some cases, people just break strings.  Your assumption that they
aren't playing it that hard is not supported by the fact that the strings
are breaking - someone there likes the piano, and is working it very hard on
a regular basis, I think.

 

One other trick that can be telling is to raise the one balance rail glide
screw at the treble break (near where these pianists tend to break the most
strings) all the way up.  This is not usually noticed by the pianist, will
not affect the tone or touch at all in softer playing, and it takes away a
little of the aggressive impact of the heavy handed pianist.

 

Unfortunately the strings have now become fatigued again, so no matter what
you do they will be breaking.  It is best if the hammer shape and regulation
are addressed at the same time as the new wire installation.

 

Don Mannino

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of bergpiano
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:11 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: [pianotech] Breaking Kawai treble strings

 

I have a customer with a Kawai GS-70. After it arrived about three years ago
treble strings started to break while playing, about once every 2 to 3
weeks. I talked to Kawai techs and decided to restring the capo section. I
used Kawai's stringing chart for decimal wire and sanded the capo to shiny
smooth. I also filed the hammers. After a short while strings started to
break again every month or two. Now they are breaking about one every 2 to 6
weeks. The breaks have always been at the capo. 

 

What am I overlooking?

I would not say the players strike overly hard. It is in a private school.
Students and teacher (mostly teacher) have broken wire. Classical music. 

Could hammer position have a bearing here? Hammers are original.

Regulation? 

I need some brainstorming here!

 

Many thanks,

 

Daniel Berg RPT

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