Is it time for a discussion, on which ETD is best? I guess that would really open a can of worms. But I kind of would like to hear some different views. We are not talking about guitar tuners, or the Conn. John Ross Windsor, Nova Scotia On 2011-01-30, at 4:50 PM, Kent Swafford wrote: > The recent tuning discussions on pianotech have been more interesting than I can communicate, more educating than I care to admit! > > It is great to know that using intervals to check unisons is a technique that is in general use in some places. I only listen to temperament intervals with all strings open, so if unisons are off, temperament is off. Since we as tuners are interested in interval widths, if a unison has a string that is sharp by x, and another unison has a string that is flat by x, then the interval between the two is off by 2x. We use intervals to check unisons because doing so effectively "doubles", that is, compounds the unison errors. > > It is also good to know that others are finding OnlyPure a path to ever-more-clean unisons (and the improved hammer techniques that cleaner unisons require). Experience those clean unisons and you'll get hooked, for sure. > > While I think this discussion has been pianotech at its best, there might still be room for improvement. 8^) > > For obvious example, I don't see why one would want to hear about the weaknesses of ETD tuning from a strictly aural tuner. Similarly, I don't see why one without aural tuning skills could expect to persuasively argue that aural tuning skills are unnecessary if he hasn't actually experienced the benefit of aural tuning. Shouldn't we speak from our strengths? Persons with both aural and visual tuning skills are the ones who can speak to the strengths and weaknesses of each. Only those with significant experience with a number of different ETDs can speak to the relative merits of each ETD. For example, it would be amusing to hear a specific ETD dismissed by one unfamiliar with its actual use. > > Kent Swafford > > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Mr. Mac's wrote: > >> Hello Folks, >> >> This information is for persons who want to go even deeper into ETD tuning. >> >> First, the qualification of my abilities to share what follows. >> Well, if I shared the truth of my experiences, >> I know that there is at least one person on the list that will mock what I know. >> So, I will say instead, that I have fiddled around. That is the sum of my experience. >> >> Now, to continue ETD'ers. >> >> If you want a rude awakening on your tuning lever technique, >> OnlyPure is the software for you. Of course it does involves monetary expenditure. >> So if you are not the type to spend money to prove a point, >> find out for yourself, or learn more about what is and what isn't, >> please don't read any further, or make unnecessary balderdash comments. >> >> Early in another subject post, I mentioned >> the ability to adjust for a .01 cent deviation with RCT. >> OnlyPure software deals in another realm completely when it comes to measurements. >> What they are I am incapable of explaining. >> >> Bernhard Stopper is the creator, and here is the link: >> http://www.piano-stopper.de/html/tunic_onlypure.html >> >> I guarantee this much: >> Hammer technique alone becomes a whole new dimension. >> The equal temperament this software produces is unequaled >> in my experience to all other ETDs' I have used. No fiddling. >> Only the most discerning aural tuners could ever >> possibly come close to the results this software produces. >> >> Downside: >> There are very few features to toy with like other ETD offering. >> >> Test subjects for making these statements: >> Three Steinway Concert Grand pianos. >> >> OnlyPure is what it is. A piano tuning software program. No fooling. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Keith McGavern, RPT >> pianostuff.kamcam.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20110130/b5d9fa58/attachment.htm>
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