[pianotech] ETD dust storm

Terry Farrell mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com
Sun Jan 30 19:51:05 MST 2011


Wow. I am in awe. Talk about going back to square one.....

Thanks for the post!

Terry Farrell

On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Jason Kanter wrote:

> First, a BIG sigh. This argument about aural tuning vs. the ETD has  
> been going on ... in our craft, since at least the 70s ... in our  
> culture, for at least 2500 years. It's about technology. There is,  
> as always, merit on both sides of the argument, but the only real  
> value comes from embracing both sides at once.
>
> Bear with me, y'all, please. Here's a quote from Plato's "Phaedrus"  
> dialog, and then I'll paraphrase a piece of it. Socrates is  
> speaking, recounting an Egyptian legend about the invention of  
> writing:
>
> "Among the ancient gods of Naucratis in Egypt there was one to whom  
> the bird called the ibis is sacred. The name of that divinity was  
> Theuth, and it was he who first discovered number and calculation,  
> geometry and astronomy, as well as the games of checkers and dice,  
> and, above all else, writing.
> "Now the king of all Egypt at that time was Thamus, who lived in the  
> great city in the upper region that the Greeks call Egyptian Thebes  
> … . Theuth came to exhibit his arts to him and urged him to  
> disseminate them to all the Egyptians. Thamus asked him about the  
> usefulness of each art, and while Theuth was explaining it, Thamus  
> praised him for whatever he thought was right in his explanations  
> and criticized him for whatever he thought was wrong.
> "The story goes that Thamus said much to Theuth, both for and  
> against each art, which it would take too long to repeat. But when  
> they came to writing, Theuth said: 'O King, here is something that,  
> once learned, will make the Egyptians wiser and will improve their  
> memory; I have discovered a potion for memory and for wisdom.'  
> Thamus, however, replied: 'O most expert Theuth, one man can give  
> birth to the elements of an art, but only another can judge how they  
> can benefit or harm those who will use them. And now, since you are  
> the father of writing, your affection for it has made you describe  
> its effects as the opposite of what they really are. In fact, it  
> will introduce forgetfulness into the soul of those who learn it:  
> they will not practice using their memory because they will put  
> their trust in writing, which is external and depends on signs that  
> belong to others, instead of trying to remember from the inside,  
> completely on their own. You have not discovered a potion for  
> remembering, but for reminding; you provide your students with the  
> appearance of wisdom, not with its reality. Your invention will  
> enable them to hear many things without being properly taught, and  
> they will imagine that they have come to know much while for the  
> most part they will know nothing. And they will be difficult to get  
> along with, since they will merely appear to be wise instead of  
> really being so.'
>
> And here's my paraphrase:
> "...But when they came to the ETD, Theuth said: 'O King, here is  
> something that, once learned, will make the tuners wiser and will  
> improve their tunings; I have discovered a potion for temperament,  
> speed, and accuracy.' Thamus, however, replied: 'O most expert  
> Theuth, one man can give birth to the elements of an art, but only  
> another can judge how they can benefit or harm those who will use  
> them. And now, since you are the father of the ETD, your affection  
> for it has made you describe its effects as the opposite of what  
> they really are. In fact, it will introduce loss of accurate hearing  
> into the soul of those who learn it: they will not practice using  
> their ears because they will put their trust in the display, which  
> is external and depends on machine programming, instead of trying to  
> hear the actual intervals from the inside, completely on their own.  
> You have not discovered a potion for temperament, speed, and  
> accuracy, but for reading a display; you provide your students with  
> the appearance of tuning, not with its reality. Your invention will  
> enable them to tune many pianos without really hearing them, and  
> they will imagine that they have become good tuners while for the  
> most part they will know nothing about the true art of tuning. And  
> they will be difficult to get along with, since they will merely  
> appear to be wise instead of really being so.'
>
> My point? Every technological advance is subject to this kind of  
> argument. Every advance does subtract from the human experience, and  
> at the very same time, every advance also benefits us in new ways.  
> We drive in cars and forget how to walk. We watch TV and forget how  
> to enjoy the passage of time. We email and forget how to engage in  
> face-to-face conversation. In every case we could get into pitched  
> battles, arguments available on both sides. Yet each side can  
> benefit so much by incorporating the other's viewpoint.
>
> Judge for yourself which of the voices above are open to both sides,  
> and which are entrenched.
>
> Jason
>
> <snip>
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