[pianotech] [Pianotek] the big discussion

Duaine Hechler dahechler at att.net
Mon Jan 31 19:25:52 MST 2011


David,

BINGO - again David, you hit the nail squarely on the head.

Somehow, you have mastered the way of saying what I've been trying to
say since the beginning.

Duaine

On 01/31/2011 07:38 PM, David Love wrote:
>
> All I can say is I’m glad I didn’t bring up the man/woman thing. I’m
> sure I’d be hearing all kinds of MCP accusations by now.
>
> No, I have not bought into the tuning test as the ultimate reality for
> tuning quality. Please don’t be insulting, I’d like to think it’s
> beneath you. I bring up the PTG tuning test because we hold that as a
> standard by which we measure some level of aural skill and base the
> highest level of classification we have on passing that test. If it
> has no meaning in terms of quality or if tuning quality is simply a
> matter of personal taste then why bother to try and set a standard?
> Anybody could simply argue that their own tunings are quite musical.
> Your other recent comment about the unimportance of temperament
> accuracy also flies in the face of this standard. If such variation in
> temperament tuning is common and to you acceptable, then why is that
> the most critically judged part and, in fact, the part that prevents
> most people from attempting or passing the test to begin with. Perhaps
> a note to the examining committee suggesting a reevaluation of these
> standards is in order. (Something tells me you’ll be hearing from
> Duaine on this soon.)
>
> Why would you presume that **any** etd users would lose their sense of
> the voice of the piano. And if you consider the RPT exam to be
> meaningless, why would you think that any aural tuner would have any
> sense of the “voice” of the piano. What someone uses to tune the piano
> simply has no bearing on this particular ability if it’s even a
> relevant description.
>
> Regarding your “poor silly”, if he can’t tune clean unisons how would
> you even know what his sense of stretch is? Which one of those
> unstable unisons might represent his best judgment. I come to pianos
> not infrequently where someone’s sense of stretch has the last octave
> stretched way beyond reason, a personal choice. That doesn’t make it
> right. And as far as Mr Sambell’s experience with one customer, we’ve
> all had similar experiences of quirky requests. But as the French
> would say, une hirondelle ne fait pas le printemps. Or for those of
> you who don’t speak French (myself included, it’s just one of my
> favorite sayings) , one swallow does not make the spring.
>
> I often do need to get through 5 pianos in a day btw. Once in a great
> while six. When that happens I want to be sure that the last piano of
> the day is tuned with as much care and attention to detail as the
> first. Not just “acceptable” but to a high standard. If I tune those
> pianos aurally, after the fourth piano I’ve spend some 6 hours,
> typically, and I can almost assure you that the next one will suffer
> some. Using an etd, I’ve spent 4 hours at that point and have no doubt
> that the quality of that 5^th tuning will be as good as the first.
> That counts, especially to the customer who is 5^th in line that day.
>
> I have no interest in trying to fight the public illusion about etds.
> What does concern me, however, is the myth being perpetuated by those
> in the trade. They should know better by now.
>
> David Love
>
> www.davidlovepianos.com
>

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