Yes, conventions are nice - BUT - you have to have the money to go to
hem. You have to weigh the benefits of going - I can't afford to go to
alifornia for 2 or 3 classes out of the whole convention.
I did go to the last convention that was in Kansas City - we also
ombined it with the family vacation.
--
uaine Hechler
This summer the convention is in KC. Will we see you there?
When my two boys were growing up, I planned our summer family trips around the convention, where ever it was. The boys are now grown up, but their fondest family memories were the vacations we took. Some years the money was tight, but I made it a priority to go. And guess what? What I learned at the conventions more than paid for the trip.
Going to conventions is like learning to tune. You just have to put you mind to it that you're going to do it. Otherwise you'll come up with one excuse after another not to do it. And if you think there are only two or three classes you want to attend, then you are limiting yourself, big time. Some of the most important tips I know came from sitting in a class where I thought I knew the subject better than the instructor. You never know what tips you'll pick up.
You must have missed the fact that we trained side-by-side for several
months - not - just - once. Plus, there were several times, I was
effectively under his wing - meaning we went out on several places where
multiple pianos needed to be tuned. I tuned some and he tuned some, and
checked mine before we left.
Again, what you did when you were with your mentor is not the same as what you're doing now. It's very easy to get into some bad habits. Without the ability to double check your work aurally, you won't know that you've made a mistake.
Duaine, you seem like an intelligent person, but I just can't for the life of me understand why you are so reticent to learn to tune aurally. We're not asking you to do anything illegal, or dishonest. Tuning aurally is just one part of being a competent, all around piano tuner/technician.
Wim
-----Original Message-----
From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Mon, Jan 31, 2011 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] [Pianotek] the big discussion
On 01/31/2011 08:42 PM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote:
So - yes - I do have and use some aural tuning skills - specifically
enough to do the unisons.
Duaine
The first step in learning to tune by ear is by tuning unisons. Once
you understand what you have to listen to, (eliminating the
beats), you work on octaves. It's really not that difficult, Duaine,
if you just take the time to learn.
TW, I - can - also - tune octaves
BTW, not to open up a past subject, but I asked you who had listened
to your Cybertuning tuning, to make sure it's good. You mentioned your
mentor. That's fine. But is he with you on every tuning? Just because
he listened to you once, doesn't mean each and every tuning is right on.
ou must have missed the fact that we trained side-by-side for several
onths - not - just - once. Plus, there were several times, I was
ffectively under his wing - meaning we went out on several places where
ultiple pianos needed to be tuned. I tuned some and he tuned some, and
hecked mine before we left.
You also mentioned that you don't want to, or need to, go to
conventions or seminars because there is nothing there for you to
learn. (That they concentrate too much on grand tuning and repair, and
not enough on uprights and/or player repair). I've attended about 60
seminars and/or conventions in the 34 years I've been in the PTG. Not
once have I gone to one where I didn't learn something. Now maybe it's
because my service area is a little more expanded than yours, but even
if you want to limit yourself to upright and/or payer repair, there
are always enough classes on that subject, plus business classes,
tuning classes, health related classes, etc. to make it worth your
while to attend a seminar. And what's wrong with learning a little
more about grand pianos? After all, you tuned a Steinway B. Perhaps if
you had taken a course on voicing, and/or advanced grand regulating,
you could have offered that customer additional services.
es, conventions are nice - BUT - you have to have the money to go to
hem. You have to weigh the benefits of going - I can't afford to go to
alifornia for 2 or 3 classes out of the whole convention.
I did go to the last convention that was in Kansas City - we also
ombined it with the family vacation.
--
uaine Hechler
iano, Player Piano, Pump Organ
uning, Servicing & Rebuilding
eed Organ Society Member
lorissant, MO 63034
314) 838-5587
ahechler at att.net
ww.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
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