[pianotech] SnS rim screws

Joe Goss imatunr at srvinet.com
Sun Jul 3 19:03:59 MDT 2011


Sorry Del, the roller bearings must have gone out of my mind
Joe Goss BSMusEd MMusEd RPT
imatunr at srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Delwin D Fandrich 
  To: pianotech at ptg.org 
  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 6:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] SnS rim screws


  Joe did. 

  "We tightened the bolts  with a socket. Crown is back in the mid section where it was flat. Sustain 7 seconds!"

   

  It is conceivable that string bearing could be increased by tightening plate screws or bolts. If the plate is sitting slightly high because the bolts are on the loose side then string bearing could increase. The original post, however, said that "crown is back.where it was flat." As I said, I cannot conceive of any way tightening the plate screws or bolts in any piano could accomplish this.

   

  ddf

   

  Delwin D Fandrich

  Piano Design & Fabrication

  6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA

  Phone  360.515.0119 - Cell  360.388.6525

  del at fandrichpiano.com - ddfandrich at gmail.com

   

  From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft
  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 9:50 AM
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] SnS rim screws

   

  I don't think I said anything about crown. Of course you could never increase crown by tightening plate bolts. But if the plate bolts are loose and the plate isn't sitting down on all the plate supports, you could conceivably increase the down bearing and get a better tone and sustain if the plate was sitting firmly on the plate supports.

   

  Al -

  High Point, NC

   

   

   

  On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Delwin D Fandrich wrote:





  Then I'd sure like to see better explanations of just what mechanism might have been at work to cause an immediate and measurable increase in soundboard crown as a result of tightening plate screws/bolts. There is nothing one could do to the rim-or any other part of the skeleton-of an assembled piano that could conceivably cause a resultant increase in soundboard crown. Tightening plate screws and/or bolts simply will not do it-no matter how loose they might have been or how tight they have now become.

   

  ddf

   

  Delwin D Fandrich

  Piano Design & Fabrication

  6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA

  Phone  360.515.0119 - Cell  360.388.6525

  del at fandrichpiano.com - ddfandrich at gmail.com

   

  From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft
  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 7:27 AM
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] SnS rim screws

   

  Joe Gross wrote: 

   

  Cut to the chase: We tightened the bolts  with a socket. Crown is back in the mid section where it was flat. Sustain 8 seconds.

   

   

  Del, I don't think it was relative humidity change in this case. As I read it, it was an immediate change.

   

  Al -

  High Point, NC

   

   

   

  On Jul 3, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Delwin D Fandrich wrote:






  It's more likely the relative humidity around the piano has changed thus changing the moisture content in the board thus changing the amount of crown. Happens all the time when humidity levels changes.

   

  ddf

   

  Delwin D Fandrich

  Piano Design & Fabrication

  6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA

  Phone  360.515.0119 - Cell  360.388.6525

  del at fandrichpiano.com - ddfandrich at gmail.com

   

  From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft
  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 5:33 AM
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] SnS rim screws

   

  Joe, it could then be possible that the plate was up off the supports and when you tighten the plate bolts you got the plate down onto the supports and thus the improved tone and down bearing.

   

  Al -

  High Point, NC

   

   
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