[pianotech] [Released] Re: O.T.- H1B Visas?

[Ed Foote]

Will writes:

Sorry for being such a stickler for language.  I just think one should 
uselanguage meticulously.   If that makes me sleazy in your eyes, so be 
it.  You wrote: "Anybody that wants the ease of government protection 
has toembrace either socialism or communism".  When you say " has to 
embrace" that can only mean that you are "marrying them" (to use your 
term), as yourstatement leaves no room for exceptions.  You are saying 
the two goinextricably together.  Given your limiting terms, where is 
there room forme to read that statement any other way?	".

I think I see the problem.  You are choosing to define terms that allow 
your extreme comparisons.  There is more than one definition of 
embrace, maybe pay particular attention to the third one??

 Embrace" verb trans. ]
hold (someone) closely in one's arms, esp. as a sign of affection : 
intrans. ] the two embraced, holding each other tightly.
• accept or support (a belief, theory, or change) willingly and 
enthusiastically : much of the population quickly embraced Islam.
• include or contain (something) as a constituent part : his career 
embraces a number of activities—composing, playing, and acting.


>>   The staggering  success of American capitalism has taken place 
over the lasthundred years or so within a regulated economy.  How much 
or how little mayvary, but that is an undeniable fact.  You said "Pro 
Business means that the bottom line is paramount.  TheAmerican way is 
capitalism as measured by profits.  If an Indian firm can dowhat we do 
for less, that is where the business will go. "  Presumably thehuman 
cost is never tallied on your abacus.   It's economic Darwinism, 
whichis about survival of the fittest, eat or be eaten, etc.  - yes, 
winners and losers. <<

Yes, that is how the world works. Economies fail or succeed on the 
strength of the people that are taking part in them.   I didn't make 
these rules, and I am not making a tally.  American capitalism had 
staggering success in exploiting the resources of much of the world, 
often by force, economic or military. American business has been behind 
more than a few government  failures because they didn't play by our 
rules, (see the history of South America in the 20th century). This is 
now changing because we have been borrowing so much that our economic 
future is going to be jeopardized.

      Observe Bain Capital's well exposed transfer of a company out of 
the country, for millions of dollars profit and a bunch of Americans 
out of work. That is the rule of the road, and all the legislation in 
the world isn't going to stop it.
    Our problem is that we want the cheapest commodities, and will 
accept China's vendor financing to buy them, but at the same time, we 
want to be paid top dollar for our time.  We are causing our economic 
troubles,and the government is symptomatic, not the other way around.

  "The human cost is a sum total zero, because every lost job here is a 
gainedjob somewhere else"That statement made me think of Apple, the 
wealthiest corporation in theworld and it's Chinese factories where the 
following occurs:"However, the workers assembling iPhones, iPads and 
other devices oftenlabor in harsh conditions, according to employees 
inside those plants,worker advocates and documents published by 
companies themselves.

    And the American public supports this!  How many Americans would be 
willing to pay $1,800 for an Iphone?  If there were sufficient numbers, 
we could open that factory here, get it osha compliant and employ a lot 
of our own citizens. Why is this not happening? Not because of anything 
I have said, but because so many of us, as Americans, have come to 
value short-term gratification rather than long-term investment.  I got 
no use for victimhood.  It isn't them, it's us.
Regards,

Ed Foote RPT
http://www.piano-tuners.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html