[pianotech] Won't Stay in Tune

Noah Frere noahfrere at gmail.com
Wed Dec 5 14:15:37 MST 2012


I just restrung a 1908 Whitney 3/4 plate tall Upright, with new bridge pins
epoxied in using a syringe, ad 4/0 tuning pins. The pins are tight. I
repeat, the middle string on F#6 has a TIGHT tuning pin, tight bridge pins,
and a tight hitch pin. The string wraps around and comes up the right side
as the right string.

Sounds good, right? No - that note (and the center string of A#7) will not
stay in tune for even 4 seconds! You can just hear it drop as you strike
the string, like a miracle (or the opposite thereof.) The other notes,
including the outside strings of F#6 and A#7 are fine.

The only anomaly I am aware of is a split in the v-bar, which is, it turns
out, made of wood. (There is a brass rod over the wood for the string
termination.) AND the split is under the note. However, the split is long
and deeply angled, as can be seen in the photo, and is not centered
precisely under the offending string. Not that it needs to be.

My best guess is that the split is continuing to spread under the strain of
the string tension, and that the exact point of spread is under the center
string of F#6. However, this doesn't explain the same problem on A#7.

I was aware of the split before restringing, however it was so perfect
looking, I thought it had to be part of the design. Besides, it seems to me
that the split should eventually stop spreading (if that is what is
happening) and settle on a place. But I have pulled up F#6 to pitch half a
dozen times and it keeps dropping. 2 times ago it was at 33 cents below F6,
but the last time it was right at F6. Somehow it is not effecting the right
string.

Any ideas? The photo is from slightly below, so you can see the overhang of
the split. The split looks a little wider than it really is because of the
overhang. I am keeping a careful eye on it to see if it widens. By the way,
you can't see in the photo but the split continues down at that angle to
the other side of the v-bar on the left. The center of the split is between
the left string of F#6 and the right string of F6. Also, there are 2 more
splits of the same type further on down the bass side of the v-bar, which
strengthens my opinion that it is designed thus. There is no sign that the
splits were glued together at any point. It's just that the v-bar is so
long that it necessitated 3 sections during its construction.

Another idea is that the string is flawed, but then I would think it would
turn up in the right side of the unison as well.

I am pulling it much sharper than F#6 now to see how that effects it. Maybe
it will break and a new one will solve the problem.
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