How many fixed end formulas are there? These are straight ahead center loaded, rectangular beam deflection formulas. Of course in actual practice the beams are not center loaded in parts of the piano, especially at the top, and I do look at that. Off center loading gives greater carrying capacity to the beam, as I'm sure you know. Anyway, simple ends, meaning not attached at the ends, versus fixed or clamped ends. Google it and look it up. As you've said yourself, it sticks more when you have to do it yourself. But basically the answer is that simple ends beams will deflect 4 times more than fixed ends beams. Basic engineering. Of course, this doesn't tell the whole story, that is which formula you use. If you use simple ends formulas but target a deflection which is much greater than someone who uses fixed ends formulas then there might well be some greater parity in final calculations than it would seem on the surface. But if we use those different formulas and all other parameters remain the same then the simple ends beam will be a much sturdier beam than the fixed ends one by a factor of 4. No, I did not say that I set light bearing. What I said was that if I was making my rib structures as heavy as you appeared to be making them (based on that particular discussion) that I would definitely want to set the bearing on the light side so as not to further increase the stiffness by compressing the structure even further. Since I don't, I don't. If I didn't communicate that clearly at the time then consider it clarified. BTW re your other post on hybrid RC&S directed at Nick G's post., I took that to mean the hybrid versus RC&S positions. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com This is what doesn't logically connect. What fixed end formula are you using? > Did I say I use light bearing??? I don't think so. Not this round, but you most certainly did the last time this went by on the list, as you were informing me as to how I was dangerously overloading my too stiff boards and killing the tone. > The preset bearing > settings I use are 1.5 degrees through the piano. More on this when I get more details on your flexure formula. Ron N
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