[pianotech] Exams discussion - Odd?

[David Renaud]

Hello Ron 

Yes, Fair enough. 

    Master tuning tunes the piano to the standards set out ; 2:1 in the top octave for example. My point was that smoothing out progressions of 10ths,etc smooths out the aural progressions beyond what is achieved with tune lab or cyber tuner, the inharmonisity/quirks get reflected in the numbers as the aural progressions are refined. It creates a great point of reference for the function of earmarking errors. 

   The standards and procedures for the master tuning do prove to be a fantastic aural exercise in Aural progressions, and has proven to be a good tool to uphold the current standards 
Of the tuning test.  And yet there is more. Yes, I like to morph between 4:2 and 6:3 and push towards wider octaves in the very low bass, etc. The "wow" factor requires more. That journey 
Began for me in the exam room, getting in touch with what is going on, how to measure it, and what choices we have to make...

      Thanks for the input. I'll be careful how I express that, "best it can be" 
Perhaps better;   best it can be within the given defined perimeters to function as a master tuning.
        ".There is wisdom in a multitude of councilors"

                                           Dave Renaud 

                                                               

                                                

                                 

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On 2012-05-13, at 2:10 PM, Ron Koval <drwoodwind at hotmail.com> wrote:

> What gets lost/forgotten/never learned in this recurring discussion is just what "teaching to the test" does for the general concept of what makes a good tuning...  There are plenty of tuners out there, as well as some CTE's that are comfortable stating that the master tuning is a process that tunes the piano the "best it can be".  
> 
> Well, no...  It is a process to apply specific partial matches to transfer the temperament out to the rest of the piano.  In effect, this controls the tuning by matching a single partial from each note of the octave (6:3 4:2 and 2:1)
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> Maybe that's why so few tuners seem to achieve the "wow factor" when it comes to tuning.  And of course if you test this tuning with the same checks used to make the tuning, you can "prove" it is perfect - yet still may not be close to what the best in the industry are aiming for.
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> Ron Koval
> chicagoland
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