[pianotech] Sandy coming ashore

[paul bruesch]

This thread no longer pertains to Hurricane Sandy, and has become quite
political in nature. Please stop.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Joseph Giandalone <rufy at rcn.com> wrote:

>
> You call it "the government stealing from us" but a more realistic view
> is: returning to The Commons (that is, to all of us) some of what you
> couldn't have earned without your use of (and reliance upon) what WE ALL
> built in the first place.
>
> Secondly, the government doesn't print "fake money" – the government
> issues ALL the money, which is a symbolic means of exchange – not something
> of inherent value in and of itself.
>
> I agree with you that mega corporations don't deserve massive federal
> subsidies. The solution might be to enforce the still-existing
> anti-monopoly laws, thereby giving not-so-mega enterprises the opportunity
> to compete. (Of course, we'd have to allow some federal agencies to use
> some of "our" money to implement such a thing.)
>
> Robbing banks to use the money to stimulate our local (and national,
> perhaps international) economy is kind of what I was suggesting, actually.
> Let's force them to put some of the piles of cash they have on the books to
> good use instead of dreaming up new investment schemes that will only
> benefit the banksters and other insiders in the game. Hey! the Federal
> Government could do that!! The Federal Government IS ALL OF US !! We could
> use the dough to build roads, bridges and schools, courts and police and
> fire departments, communications infrastructure, cost-saving medical
> facilities, future-oriented energy technologies, water projects, medical
> and scientific research!! All of this a huge INVESTMENT in our future
> economic success! Once all those projects got cranking, think about how
> many more folks would be employed; think of all the business that would be
> created at all levels of our consumer-driven economy!
>
> Well??
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Dean May wrote:
>
> > Indeed! We must have the government steal from us through taxation and
> > printing fake money to funnel to those mega corporations who couldn't
> exist
> > without massive federal subsidies. If stealing to spend is the answer,
> why
> > don't we all go rob banks so we can use the money to boost our local
> > economy?
> >
> > Dean
> > Dean W May                (812) 235-5272 voice and text
> > PianoRebuilders.com    (888) DEAN-MAY
> > Terre Haute IN 47802
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Joseph Giandalone
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:03 AM
> > To: pianotech at ptg.org
> > Subject: Re: [pianotech] Sandy coming ashore
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Your criticism is frankly absurd. Massive federal spending (given high
> > unemployment, an economy operating far under capacity, companies sitting
> on
> > piles of cash, and nonexistent inflation) is exactly what is needed to
> > stimulate a full recovery !!
> >
> > Joseph
> >
> >
> > On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Dave Doremus wrote:
> >
> >> That's frankly absurd. This storm won't get close to the damage caused
> by
> > Katrina and Rita and that was certainly not a boost to the economy. In
> fact
> > it led to a massive amount of criticism of the government spending money
> on
> > storm recovery. This will be even worse because of the lack of flood
> > insurance purchased in the Northeast. Recovery is going to demand more
> > federal dollars than the Gulf Coast did. Tuners/rebuilders will not be
> busy
> > until people assess housing damage and get other aspects of their life
> > moving again. Most are going to be well underinsured and homeowners does
> not
> > cover flood damage. Pianos come long after shelter.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---Dave
> >> New Orleans
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 30, 2012, at 7:40 PM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> I feel very sorry for everyone effected by this storm.  But Not only
> are
> > tuners going to be very busy, the silver lining of the storm is that it
> will
> > have a tremendous economic boost for the entire Northeast,  if not to the
> > whole country. It might the kick in the ass this country needed to get us
> > going, just as WW II got us out of the depression .
> >>>
> >>> Wim
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
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