[pianotech] Brighter Yamaha

tnrwim at aol.com tnrwim at aol.com
Fri Nov 30 10:12:47 MST 2012


Come to WestPacIII in March.  Jack Brand will give a discussion on Weikert felt and hammer making processes, and I will be giving a class on choosing hammers where not only the characteristics of hammers will be discussed but hammer matching as well.    


 
I'll be there. 
Wim




-----Original Message-----
From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 7:09 am
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brighter Yamaha



Allow me to add something here.  
 
Del is right but the trending is in the right direction, in my view.  Still some work to be done but hammers are getting softer as evidenced by new Yamaha iterations, some Abel hammers, Renner Blue Points.  Of course there is also Ronsen whose pressings are definitely on the softer side.  Isaac hammers are softer as well.  The maker is important but the match to the piano is more important.  
 
Come to WestPacIII in March.  Jack Brand will give a discussion on Weikert felt and hammer making processes, and I will be giving a class on choosing hammers where not only the characteristics of hammers will be discussed but hammer matching as well.    
 

David Love
www.davidlovepianos.com

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Tom Rhea, Jr.
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:33 AM
To: gnewell at ameritech.net; pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brighter Yamaha

 
Hi Del,
 
Do you have any recommendations of good hammer makers?  I’m rather new in the business and haven’t had to do a complete hammer job – yet – but I hope to be doing one soon on a parlor grand and I’d rather have a good set of hammers that will do justice for my client.
 
Thanks in advance,
Tom
 
PS: If you prefer, I can be reached privately at the e-mail address below.
 
T
 

Rhea Piano Service
Tom Rhea, Jr., Technician
(757) 373-0284
rheapiano at cox.net
www.rheapiano.com
 



From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Greg Newell
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 11:14 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brighter Yamaha

 
The only real problem being that so very many have a dummied down idea of what piano tone should be that their techniques work for the majority of the market place. L
 
Greg
 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Delwin D Fandrich
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:58 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brighter Yamaha

 
Yes, well, good luck with that….
 
I’d be happy if hammer makers would simply stick within the known bounds of what wool will tolerate. It’s been known for some time now that pressing wool felt with lots of moisture and too much pressure and too much heat produces piano hammer shaped objects that are incapable of producing the basic musical nuances we expect from our pianos yet some hammermakers—and pianomakers—continue pressing wool felt with too much moisture and too much pressure and too much heat forcing the stuff into something having the shape—but not the soul—of piano hammers. And piano technicians continue buying these atrocities and they continue recommending the pianos fitted with them to their overly trusting customers. And then, when the pianos don’t sound “right,” they have to drag out every heroic voicing technique in the book in a desperate attempt to make those piano hammer shaped whatever-they-are musically less bad. Bah! Humbug!
 
ddf
 
Delwin D Fandrich
Piano Design & Fabrication
6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA
Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525
del at fandrichpiano.comddfandrich at gmail.com
 
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Euphonious Thumpe
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 5:14 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brighter Yamaha
 



Yup. A very good argument for the development of synthetic wool hammers! (And other piano felts -- as real wool collects humidity, thus encouraging rust on contacted metal parts.)

Thumpe




 




From: Delwin D Fandrich <del at fandrichpiano.com>; 
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>; 
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brighter Yamaha 
Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 5:55:38 AM 


Wool is hygroscopic. It does absorb and desorb moisture and the tone
characteristic changes as a result. Normally the change is slight and
gradual. This may not be so slight. 

I'd certainly let time do what it will before attempting to chemically
harden hammers that already have the reputation of being granite in
disguise. And then, if they do not harden up enough to cause permanent
hearing damage after they have dried out I'd sand off a layer before pouring
on the chemicals. And, as Ron suggested, I'd try ironing them a bit.

ddf

Delwin D Fandrich
Piano Design & Fabrication
6939 Foothill Court SW, Olympia, Washington 98512 USA
Phone  360.515.0119 — Cell  360.388.6525
del at fandrichpiano.comddfandrich at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of tnrwim at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:30 PM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Brighter Yamaha

Thanks for the advice, so far. As a follow, I've that high humidity has an
effect on hammers. This piano sat in empty house for five years in Hilo, but
was moved to Oahu 2 weeks ago and is now in an air condition hall. 

Hilo is on the Windward side of the Big Island of Hawaii, where it rains A
LOT. The piano is only 6 years old and has never been used. It has had a
string cover and a damp chaser, so there no damage, and the hammers are
virtually brand new. 

Would the being exposed to a lot of humidity be the reason the hammers are
soft, and if I just wait 6 months they will brighten up by themselves?

Wim
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 29, 2012, at 3:57 PM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote:

> We usually have knock the edge off Yamaha hammers. But a church just got a
small grand where the killer octaves need a little boost.  What is the
recommended method for "juicing" up Yamaha hammers
> 
> Wim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


 


 
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