[pianotech] appointment, etc. was Re: soliciting testimonials or customer comments?

tnrwim at aol.com tnrwim at aol.com
Thu Oct 18 21:49:10 MDT 2012


As much as we want computers to do all of our work, at some point we have to get personally involved when it comes to scheduling appointments or reminding people to get their piano tuned. 

First of all, about one third of my customers are prescheduled. That comes to almost 10 appointments a week. (I wrote an article in eh Journal about that a couple of months ago).  In regards to the rest of my customers, I send them a simple post card for 5 years in the month I last tuned their piano, basically saying it's time to get the piano tuned. Above their name on the mailing label it shows the month and year I tuned the piano. I send them out, but honestly, I get maybe 2 or 3 calls a month, if that many. But I send them anyway to keep my name out there. 

I don't make phone calls. I get phone calls, but because I have my calendar with me on my phone, I can make appointments almost anytime, anywhere.  But now that I am getting a new website which gives customers the opportunity to schedule appointments, I might never have to get on the phone again. :)

Wim


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul McCloud <pmc033 at earthlink.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Thu, Oct 18, 2012 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] soliciting testimonials or customer comments?


Hi, Wim:
I use another web based scheduling service from AppointmentQuest.  I have some 
of the same issues as Genbooks, because I sometimes have clients sign up in 
distant areas of town.  I have to monitor my emails closely to see if anyone has 
made an appointment, and then sync the information to get it into my iPhone.  
I'm working on a Filemaker database so that I can have a secretary call people 
to remind them, and not get things mixed up.  If these programs would only have 
a feature that they would automatically remind people to have their pianos 
tuned, that would be great.  Since I haven't found one, I have to pay to have a 
program customized for me.  I have many clients in the ApptQuest online 
database, so at least I don't have to type them all in.  
Years ago, I was told about ApptQuest by Brad Smith.  He has different calendars 
for different parts of his service area, so that customers in those areas can 
only make appointments on certain days.  I have not done that, because I don't 
want to lose a potential customer because they don't have an opening on their 
day off.  It might be a possible solution for you.
Paul McCloud
San Diego

----- Original Message -----
From: tnrwim at aol.com
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:14:54 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] soliciting testimonials or customer comments?


Jerry 

After discussing this with my computer guy, we've decided not to use Genbooks 
after all. One of the prime reason is the scheduling. I like to bundle my 
appointments as much as possible, so as not to have to drive from one end of the 
island to the other. I don't know how you get around that, but it does create a 
problem for me, especially during certain parts of the day. The other thing I 
didn't like was having to transfer all my appointments to Genbooks. 

What we are going to do, however, is almost as good. My new website will allow a 
customer to request three different times, after he/she has filled in the 
address and phone number. That gives me more control over the scheduling. I've 
been more or less doing that now, when they send an e-mail asking to get the 
piano tuned. I then have to respond to get their address etc., and.It often 
takes three or four e-mails to set something up. Now I will have all if their 
information, and we can set something up right away. I still only have to use 
Outlook, which is synced to me computer and iphone. 

I am also going to see if there is a way to send reminders and ask for 
testimonials, which was the original topic of this discussion. 

Wim 
. 




-----Original Message----- 
From: Jerry Groot <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> 
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org> 
Sent: Tue, Oct 16, 2012 2:18 am 
Subject: Re: [pianotech] soliciting testimonials or customer comments? 




Hi Wim, 

Great!! You’ll love it! It took me a couple/few months before people started 
using it as much as I thought they should. When people call my business line, I 
made a voice message saying that they can go to my website and book from there 
if they wish. Genbook really comes in handy with my college where we book a ton 
of concert tunings and other stuff in there. The phone tag and email tag is 
virtually ended but for some sort of emergency, broken wire or something. Of 
course, there is a bit of a learning curve too, like with anything else. But, if 
I can learn it, anyone can! J 

There is a place in Outlook that took me FOREVER to find where once we have 
Genbook set up to sync without computer, we “MUST click Genbook” in our Outlook. 
Genbook had to help me find it but, once it was clicked, it synced together 
perfectly and the total cost is only $20 a month. That place is located on the 
left side of Outlook. Click your calendar. Then look for “all calendar items. 
Click that. Down below that, you will see, Genbook. Click that box. It will only 
show up there once you have Genbook set up ON Genbook’s web page to sync with 
your Outlook, Gmail etc. 

Not only that but, there is little chance of losing this information for 
example, if your computer were to crash, you’d be screwed. Genbook can be 
accessed from any computer, anywhere so long as you remember the password. So 
now you can book from the clients home as well. I have my main computer backed 
up, now it is online at Genbook as well so, I’m saved in two places. AND, once 
the information is entered that you require the client to enter, next time it is 
filled in, you start filling in the customers name, say Wim -----as soon as Wim 
is typed in, anyone with the first name of Wim comes up. Hit the tab button to 
bring you to the 2 nd name Blees… Click on what it brings up and it auto fills 
out the remaining fields for you with the name, address, email, phone number 
etc… 

Feel free anyone to look around, click on a tuning for example to see what you 
see from there…. www.grootpiano.com in case you forgot what it was. 

There are so many great features with it, I can’t list them all so I touch on 
the ones I like the most. Another being, that when they do get their 
confirmation email, should something pop up, I allow them to be able (notice I 
said I allow them, there is a feature in Genbook that allows you to let them 
cancel within a certain amount of time too) to cancel or change the appointment 
from that email which people have done from time to time. Screwed up or, had a 
death in the family. 

Jer 



From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org ] On Behalf 
Of tnrwim at aol.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:17 AM 
To: pianotech at ptg.org 
Subject: Re: [pianotech] soliciting testimonials or customer comments? 


Gerry 



I just signed up for this service and sent it my computer guy. I like that it 
automatically sets up the appointment to my outlook, which is also synced to my 
IPhone, so I can see right away when a new app is made. The only draw back, as 
you said, Is when some one schedules an appointment on the north side when I 
have another appointment on the south side, with no travel time in between. But, 
as you said, it's a small problem to deal with. The important thing is that 
customers can now schedule an appointment on line, which seems to be how things 
are going to done in the future 



Thanks for recommending this program 



Wim 

Sent from my iPhone 


On Oct 15, 2012, at 3:15 PM, "Jerry Groot" < tunerboy3 at comcast.net > wrote: 



Hi Rick, 

No, they can’t. Only I can see my whole calendar and what’s booked. What they 
see is only what times I have made available to them to choose from and that’s 
it. They have the choice of picking what suits them best. 

I can block a day, a part of a day, an appointment time, block out my vacation 
dates etc., so nobody can book a thing. Or, I can open something up with one 
click if I blocked it out holding it for a church or for someone else. 

When people book an appointment they have exactly 5 minutes to complete it. That 
way, they can’t hold open a time slot while they answer a phone call or while 
they fool around texting or whatever. After that 5 minute time frame is up and 
if they haven’t hit the confirm button, it auto exits them out. Then, they have 
to start over again.. I like that feature. If they book the appointment, it will 
take them less than 2 minutes to fill it all out. 

You can also require a credit card for confirmation if you choose. I don’t use 
that feature as I think it would be a turn off. At least it would for me. The 
reason for it, is for no shows but, when they book the appointment, it sends 
them an email immediately confirming the chosen date. 24 hours prior to our 
appointment, it sends them a reminder email with information that I personally 
placed in there for them to read such as: “In most cases, I will not have to 
move the piano away from the wall. Please remove all items off from the piano 
prior to my arrival. Please do not run the dishwasher, load it, or unload it or 
the vacuum cleaner. I will need it relatively quiet to do my job correctly.” 
Etc…. Whatever you’d like for it to say. 

When they set up an appointment, it also auto blocks out that time slot on both 
Genbook and on my computers Outlook calendar which it is set up to auto 
coordinate with Genbook without me having to do a thing at all with it.. I come 
home see that someone booked an appointment and that’s pretty much it. 

As for distances, that’s the only drawback. You could say something like my 
travel area is generally let’s say “15 miles from wherever you live. If you are 
outside of this area, please call me.” 

You can set it up too, if you don’t want to service for a particular customer 
for any reason, that they cannot book an appointment online at all! 

I have only had one time so far, where I had to reschedule someone that was way 
out of where I was going to go on that day. They were very understanding about 
it. Everything has its drawbacks…. But, there are far too many positives for me 
that I can overlook this one. 

Jerry Groot RPT 



From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org ] On Behalf 
Of richarducci at comcast.net 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:57 PM 
To: pianotech at ptg.org 
Subject: [pianotech] soliciting testimonials or customer comments? 


Hey Jerry, can the people booking appointments see you whole calendar? 



Does it block out times that are already booked? 



What about distances between appointments? 



Rick Ucci 

Uccipiano.com 

609-677-0444 


On Oct 15, 2012, at 2:51 PM, "Jerry Groot" < tunerboy3 at comcast.net > wrote: 




If you go to my website, www.grootpiano.com you will see that people can 
schedule their own tunings at specific times that I have specified. And, you can 
see any reviews that people have sent to me. FYI, I was booked through November 
but, I had a “few” changes take place recently so I have a few openings left for 
this month now. 

Be that as it may, they can very easily book with me directly online now and 
many of them do so. Everyone loves it! Especially those that I have to schedule 
often like my college concert tunings and other venues. It virtually eliminates 
playing phone tag!!!!!! 

I’ve been using this service, “Genbook” for scheduling now for about 8 months 
upon the recommendation of a friend, Loren DiGiorgi who has used it for several 
years. I love it. An email goes out the day after the appointment has occurred, 
asking the client to click on a link and provide some feedback on his/her 
experience. They can say whatever they wish, good, or bad, it is totally their 
choice… 

Jerry Groot RPT 




From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org ] On Behalf 
Of Richard W. Bushey 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:47 PM 
To: pianotech at ptg.org 
Subject: Re: [pianotech] soliciting testimonials or customer comments? 


Also, is it better to have them write to you or about your services? Or does it 
matter? 



Richard W. Bushey 
Richard's Piano Service 
www.RichardsPianoService.com 
Rbushey at RichardsPianoService.com 
573-765-9903 



----- Original Message ----- 

From: Richard W. Bushey 

To: pianotech at ptg.org 

Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 12:44 PM 

Subject: [pianotech] soliciting testimonials or customer comments? 



I have seen several technician's websites that include testimonials or customer 
comments about one's services (including all aspects of tuning/repair, etc. as 
well as specifically about Dampp-Chaser installations), and was considering 
adding a page such as this for my services. I was wondering what you all feel is 
the proper way to acquire, ask permission to use, etc? OR do you feel that they 
are even helpful, necessary, or not? It is always awkward asking people to 
"dote" on you, however, I think it is still an honest way for potential 
customers to see that you are legit, punctual, careful, polite, etc. without you 
having to "blow your own horn" so to speak. They will have a tendency to believe 
what others say collectively about you. 



Anyway, if one (me or anyone else) wants to include them on their website, I 
guess I'm curious if one should wait for unsolicited comments (cards, emails, 
etc. that just show up without you asking), or is it alright to ask present 
and/or former clients (by email, request at the time of tuning, etc.) if they 
would be willing and able to write an honest note (by email, cards, comment 
boxes on blogs, facebook entries, etc.) about one's services with the 
understanding that anything written could be used on one's website or other 
publications such as brochures, etc? 



So, what do you all do? 





Richard W. Bushey 
Richard's Piano Service 
www.RichardsPianoService.com 
Rbushey at RichardsPianoService.com 
573-765-9903 



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