Paul, First, it is all about the kind of area and customer base. Every pitch raise, major or minor, I tell the customer that I need to come back within a month for another tuning. They just at me like I'm some kind of alien - even though, I explain that it is in pretty good shape now, however it is going to go out between now and then. And, yes, Cybertuner does make a major pitch raise for a decent tuning in one pass. Even though, after each tuning, I go back and check octaves and unisons - usually with only a few minor adjustments. I do not know about the others, but I started and am sold on Cybertuner - which is the one my mentor has used for a long time. As far as repeat customers, my gut tells me that my clientele is - not - the kind that keep their pianos up. Especially, when I get told, usually, that "I can't remember that last time it was tuned", "it has been a long time ago - maybe 5 (to 25) years ago (since it was tuned last)", "it has never been tuned" or "it just sounds God awful, so I guess it's time for a tuning". I even try to sell them on a "yearly" tuning. 99% of the time, they will say "I don't know but check back with me anyway". And, at least around me, more and more churches are "into" Praise Bands and "keyboards". Even - *my* - church has a keyboard (for the sanctuary) - and - a piano (Brambach, Baby Grand, S/N: 70951 (1929)) that, I service, and it's sitting in the "Grand Hall" only used for "Special" occasions. (For it's age, it's great shape, new hammers, new keytops, holds a tune very well, fully regulated, cabinet in descent shape) Supposedly, the "praise band" director is waiting to get money for a piano truck before moving and using it in the sanctuary. (I've already had to fix a broken leg on it because somebody did not know how to move the piano) And, for the rest of the people, they already have the rest of the "established" tuners busy with will established clientele (some for more than 25+ years) So, bottom line, I would venture to say that I'm getting the last of the food chain <ugh> Oh, on a final note, about 2 years ago, I did a 1000+ "intro and prices" mailing to all churches, schools, etc around my area with only about 5-10 responses. (That in itself tells me a lot about the potential of this area) Regards, Duaine On 10/31/2012 05:33 PM, Paul Williams wrote: > Go check your work in a month. ETD or not. Just pulling up to pitch will > not last at all. (OKŠSteinway 1098's are excused.)Ha! > > Do you mean you don't over pull at all? Do you get repeat customers? > Just asking. > > Do you do this even when the piano is 100 cents flat? We need to know > your secret.I would love to know the one time pass technique on one that > flat! Please do tell. > > Paul > > > On 10/31/12 5:12 PM, "Duaine Hechler" <dahechler at att.net> wrote: > >> On 10/31/2012 10:11 AM, paul bruesch wrote: >>> Thanks Joe, >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>> I've never attempted a blind overpull, and don't plan to any time in >>> the foreseeable future. Even after (only) 8 years >>> at this I don't feel comfortable enough to try it. >>> >>> Paul Bruesch >>> Stillwater, MN >> Speaking of "blind overpull", I, for the life of me, don't understand how >> aural tuners come up with an overpull factor. >> Especially, considering how much is constantly moving. >> >> It just can't be "practice" and "repetition". >> >> The only thing that makes sense to me, is that, that is why you HAVE to >> do multiple passes and constantly tweak. >> >> Whereas, ETDs, like Cybertuner (that I have), calculate and adjust the >> amount on the fly to come out with an acceptable >> tuning on the first pass. >> >> Duaine >> >> -- >> Duaine Hechler >> Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding >> (314) 838-5587 / dahechler at att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com >> Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years >> >> > > -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / dahechler at att.net / www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com Home & Business user of Linux - 12 years
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