>Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:56:11 -0700 >From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos at comcast.net> >BTW just one added comment. Calculating the action ratio by weight, as in >the Stanwood SWR method, I have found to be totally unreliable as there are >simply too many opportunities for measurement error. >David Love Dear David Love et al, I've been trying to understand your statement: "Calculating the action ratio by weight". Do you mean calculating the distance ratio by the weight method? If so I think it is important to distinguish between distance and weight ratios. One is influenced by gravity vectors and the other not. So they are not necessarily the same. I stand by my opinion published in the PTG Journal that the best action setups exhibit a distance ratio that is equal to or higher than the weight ratio, the higher the better. This relationship is effected by the set up of the arc geometry, an important and deep subject indeed. I defend the calculation of SWR or Strike Weight Ratio as a viable and reasonably repeatable method. Those of us who practice Component Touch Weight balancing know that the determination of the SWR or Strike Weight Ratio level is an essential ingredient for calculating Front Weight Specifications. The technique has been practiced and continues to be a highly valued tool by many in our profession. Those of us who utilize this method know that calculating Strike Weight Ratio on a single note and drawing a conclusion about the action as a whole is, in your words: "totally unreliable". However, as soon as a greater number of measures are taken and averages looked at, the information becomes more and more reliable and totally useful. I suggest the same statistical approach when drawing conclusions about the calculation or measurement of distance ratios. Best to measure sample notes across the keyboard and look at the average level of the action as a whole. There are plenty of opportunities for error in measuring between distance points as we see by the discussion and questions. Also there are naturally variations in action ratio due simply to unevenness in the construction of action components. Balance Rail pin lines are not straight, capstan lines vary a lot, and when you look closely at knuckle placement you will find there is plenty of opportunity for variation. Add this to measuring errors and we have a good formula for cumulative error or variation which result in action ratios that uneven by varying degrees from note to note. Statistical method is the only way to avoid or minimize false perception and this means taking enough samples to draw real conclusions. In my work and consulting we use three levels of sampling: Minimal = middle c2,c#2c4,c#4,c6,c#6 or notes 16,17,40,41,64,65 for quick evaluation Partial = all the c, c#s for determination of levels Full = all 88 notes For StrikeWt calibration and documentation of the action "as was" Hope this helps. David Stanwood
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