[pianotech] Down load archives ?

[Dale Erwin]

Can we individually or collectively download the archive. They art too valuable to lose

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On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Paul McCloud <pmc033 at earthlink.net> wrote:

> What he said +1.  
> My opinion and observation is, the Guild is trying to "commercialize" the free expression of ideas that was/is Pianotech.  Nobody had to be a computer genius, just have email.  There are/were many members who gave freely of their time to contribute, and who didn't get any compensation for it.  If they had been consultants, few of us would have been able to afford their advice.  The listserv format is so simple and basic that no time is wasted dealing with passwords, logins, identities, communities, etc.  Even if the time isn't all that much, it represents a roadblock and a mental hurdle to participate.  Personally, I agree with Alan.  I like being able to sort things on my end, not from and endless list of topic subforums.  That one tidbit of information that I glean from an obscure topic can often become a breakthrough moment, something that I can use to save time and effort in my work.  The shame is, that if that person decides it's too cumbersome and time-wasting to contribute, I might miss that pearl of wisdom.  We're talking about people here, not a machine.  People are sensitive and sentient.  It's a matter of trust and respect amongst ourselves.  More and more we find ourselves talked down to, and not heard.  
> As far as the old list goes, the information was archived and searchable for any topic or author.  Sometimes it worked better than at other times, but it was there.  Now that the barn has been condemned, and many horses have left, I'm not sure they'll be able to round them (us) up again.
> I am interested to know, along with others, whether someone(s) can just take over the list server and keep it alive.
> Paul McCloud
> San Diego
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Eder" <reggaepass at aol.com>
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:59:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Say goodbyebye Folks
> 
> As yet another long-time dues-paying and fully enfranchised member of PTG, I just wanted to add my voice to the growing chorus of those of us who find this list both extremely valuable and handy and think it would be the height of irony for our organization to jettison what is for many the single most valuable tool we have towards furthering our professional development in real-time and on a day-to-day basis. I, for one, like receiving all posts and deciding what to read, what to save for a "rainy day," and to delete right away. I want to underscore an important point that someone else made against sub-forums: I peruse pianotech the way I choose which classes to attend at a convention, which is partially by subject, but largely by who is putting forth the information. Yes, there are certain posters whose words I am ALWAYS interested in reading, regardless of the subject matter, and others who are, shall we say, at the other end of the desirability spectrum. 
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> My two cents, FWIW, 
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> Alan Eder 
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: David Love <davidlovepianos at comcast.net> 
> To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org> 
> Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 9:43 am 
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Say goodbyebye Folks 
> 
> 
> I agree with many other comments that the problems with the new list are
> primarily the user friendliness (takes too long), posting photo problems,
> and the fractured aspect of the various communities and associated cross
> posting issues.  Looking for various other lists to subscribe to is just too
> much trouble and creating even more fracturing and dilution, in my view.
> The junk mail/pop up/invasiveness of google has no appeal for me.  It's too
> bad that the problems couldn't, or wouldn't be resolved.  A valuable
> resource will be lost, or at least diminished.
> 
> Come April 1st I think I will simply take a permanent (or at least
> semi-permanent until something changes for the better) break from the
> list(s).  
> 
> David Love www.davidlovepianos.com