[pianotech] revising history, was Re: Free at last!

Mike Spalding mike.spalding1 at frontier.com
Wed Feb 27 11:23:53 MST 2013


And furthermore, the vote said absolutely nothing about shutting down on 
a specific date.

On 2/27/2013 8:52 AM, johnparham at piano88.com wrote:
> Mike,
>
> You're right. Even though the way is was handled was awkward, we still
> knew about the vote from the minutes...five months ago...not one year
> like I said.
>
> -John Parham
>
>
>
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [pianotech] revising history, was Re:  Free at last!
>> From: Mike Spalding <mike.spalding1 at frontier.com>
>> Date: Wed, February 27, 2013 9:11 am
>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>
>>
>> John,
>>
>> You're avoiding/evading my question.  You said:
>>
>> "For what it's worth, 1) we all have know about this date for almost a
>> year because it was publicly announced"
>>
>> and I asked you to back that up  with some facts.  The only public
>> announcement that I remember was a statement by Jim Coleman Jr.
>> declaring that no, the 2012 Council would NOT be voting on the future of
>> the Pianotech list.  Then, about 5 months ago, we all received our
>> copies of the Council minutes, indicating that a vote was taken to
>> continue operating Pianotech for at least 6 months, and research
>> alternatives.
>>
>> Can you point us to the public announcement that you're referring to?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On 2/26/2013 5:19 PM, johnparham at piano88.com wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Yes, it could have gone much better, obviously. I would have been nice
>>> if this last ditch effort to buy the server and to maintain the
>>> integrity of this forum months ago when change was on the horizon.
>>>
>>> -John Parham
>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Free at last!
>>>> From: Mike Spalding <mike.spalding1 at frontier.com>
>>>> Date: Tue, February 26, 2013 7:57 am
>>>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> Are you referring to this tiny, vague, entry in the minutes of the 2012
>>>> Council?
>>>>
>>>> "C12-047  Ron Berry moved and Bruce Dornfeld seconded a motion to:
>>>> continue running the
>>>> mail list servers for at least six
>>>> months and charge the Electronic Communications
>>>> Committee to look at other alternatives."
>>>>
>>>> So, where is the ECC report on alternatives, or the public announcement
>>>> regarding the decision to kill the list on 4-1?
>>>>
>>>> I agree that life always finds a way.  I'm less disturbed by the death
>>>> of the list than I am by the behavior of the killers.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On 2/26/2013 6:26 AM, johnparham at piano88.com wrote:
>>>>> Joe,
>>>>>
>>>>> For what it's worth, 1) we all have know about this date for almost a
>>>>> year because it was publicly announced, and 2) I have never had a
>>>>> problem with HL, only delays.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure this forum will morph into the next evolution just fine. Life
>>>>> always finds a way.
>>>>>
>>>>> -John Parham
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>> Subject: [pianotech] Free at last!
>>>>>> From: "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, February 26, 2013 3:16 am
>>>>>> To: "pianotech" <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've disconnected,(unsubscribed), from ALL HL offerings! At last, I don't
>>>>>> have to put up with the Village Idiot! I'm hoping that ALL who read this
>>>>>> and were sucked into the HL hype, do the same. I think if we send a message
>>>>>> that way, we'll, hopefully get someone's attention.<G> I spoke with a
>>>>>> member of the Electronic Communications Committee this evening and he was
>>>>>> just as startled as I was to find that the pianotech list was to be
>>>>>> disbanded. His recommendation to his fellow committee members was to fix
>>>>>> the existing probems of pianotech and to continue it's use! Go Figger.
>>>>>> Another example of piss/poor leadership decisions, imo.
>>>>>> Regards to All,
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
>>>>>> Captain of the Tool Police
>>>>>> Squares R I
>>>>>> http://gpianoworks.com/



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