[pianotech] real costs of running a listserv list

[Encore Pianos]

I vote the former, they are a collective of flat-liners.  Not even Keyser Söze could feign such ineptitude.

Will

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ron Nossaman
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:11 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] real costs of running a listserv list

On 2/27/2013 4:43 PM, Jim Moy wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net 
> <mailto:rnossaman at cox.net>> wrote:
>
>     On 2/27/2013 3:10 PM, Paul McCloud wrote:
>
>           And if it's only $50/mo. plus volunteers, what in
>         the world is the problem with having both HL and the old system
>         running side by side?
>
>
>     As I've said, the only thing that connects for me is that it's a
>     personal vendetta of some sort, or somehow threatens someone's self
>     image. It's something petty and glandular.
>
>
> I've hesitated to bring it up, because I'm afraid people will take it 
> the wrong way, but people keep asking, so I'll add my 2¢. It makes 
> perfect sense to shut down the current pianotech and move it to HL. 
> It's what I might do were I running PTG info-tech, though I hope I 
> would perform better in the execution.

I agree on all counts, and pointed out two years ago that if they would just get the attachments working with email in HL, that the pianotech list would be unnecessary and superfluous. And just in case of collective short attention spans, I repeated it a lot. Nothing, except "We got Member Max, we got Member Max".


> If I am correct, then my.ptg.org <http://my.ptg.org> may still achieve 
> these goals, because it puts some social media under the PTG brand, 
> beyond just a normal web site.

By all indications, I'll become pregnant or smart before HL is made to work.


> But this also means I don't assign evil motives to those who think 
> this is a reasonable thing to try to do for the larger PTG.

It's inconceivable to me that incompetence and a total inability to minimally address the questions asked during this travesty is possible at this level throughout the administration of any organization, but I've seen it happen plenty at all levels in CYA by denial policy. We don't have a clue what the intent is, because we haven't gotten sane answers from anyone about any of this until you came along with some system related information, but you can't speak to motive so we still don't know much except that the executive branch seems to be either brain dead or Keyser Söze.
Ron N