<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#d8d0c8> <DIV><FONT size=2>Do you always tune "Representative Victorian", or do = you pick a different HT based on the piano and its players?  I've heard HTs = can make spinets, in particular, sound better.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I've always thought an HT would be great for = beginners, who aren't going to get into more than two sharps or flats for a couple of years.  May as well let 'em enjoy those thirds!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>--Cy--</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 13, 2004 = 11:58 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: for your (radical turn)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Last week I tuned a 1980s S&S M = for a new client. He just moved down here from Manhattan. He has always had = "Steinway" technicians service his piano. He "warned" me that he has had = arguments about whether some notes were "in tune" with technicians in the = past.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I raised the pitch 25 cents to A440 = and tuned it to the "Representative Victorian" temperament on my Verituner. He sat = down and banged out a movement from the Appassionata while I packed up my = tools (and watched in amazement and awe). After he was done, he said "piano = is perfect - never sounded so good". I'm not really sure if my tuning was = that good (the piano did tune up well - I was unusually happy with it), if = he just liked the temperament, or if his past service personnel were sub-par.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>FWIW, I pretty much only tune in = ET on request - and that is only a very few pianos.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Richard Brekne" <</FONT><A href="mailto:Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no"><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "Pianotech" <</FONT><A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org"><FONT face=Arial size=2>pianotech@ptg.org</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2>></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:18 PM</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: for your (radical turn)</FONT></DIV></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT = face=Arial size=2>> I can echo Ed here...      yet = I still struggle with an unbeleivalbe <BR>> apathy I find amoung so many of = the pianists around here. Their <BR>> reactions to HT's,  when = they react at all... are always as Ed describes <BR>> below.... but getting = them to actually DO something with this new <BR>> <<toy>> is = another matter. <BR>> <BR>> I have one Professor who insists on having = his Young Chang piano tuned <BR>> to a milde well... but only because its = never sounded good in ET... but <BR>> this same guy doesnt want to work = up a program based on HT's... nor <BR>> spend any time exposing his = students to the potential.<BR>> <BR>> I just know that sooner or later = something will spark and the ball will <BR>> get rolling... but the basic = GAFFER attitude I find amoung young <BR>> pianists and faculty at the = University level sometimes astounds me.  <BR>> They have their = ciriculum... and thats what life is about..  .<BR>> <BR>> Nice turn tho = Ed<BR>> <BR>> RicB<BR>> <BR>> </FONT><A = href="mailto:A440A@aol.com"><FONT face=Arial size=2>A440A@aol.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial = size=2> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> >Bill writes: <BR>> ><< Now = what was the subject, temperaments? <G> >><BR>> ><BR>> = >Humm, now that you mention it....  <BR>> >    I = had a new customer call me to tune a Steinway M yesterday.  Said that = <BR>> >he had decided to sell it and wanted it to sound its best.  = Told me to do <BR>> >whatever I thought would make it most attractive. = So,  I tuned it in a Broadwood. <BR>> >He sat down and played = it.  His wife (also a musician and songwriter), came <BR>> >downstairs = and stood there.  Hint of rapture in the air...<BR>> = >    After a piece or two, he looked up and said, at the same time his wife = <BR>> >did, "This piano has never sounded this good!" Not sure = they want to part with <BR>> >it, now.  <BR>> = >    Last week, a studio owner also had me tune, but asked to return to ET for = <BR>> >an overdub session that was going in E maj.  He told me that = since he had <BR>> >become used to the Coleman 11, the piano just sounds = out of tune to him in ET and <BR>> >wants to return to WT as soon as possible.  <BR>> >   Like I said last = century,  this stuff will just not go away!  Politicians <BR>> >will, but = not the WTT's  (well-tempered tuners).  <BR>> >Regards, = <BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >  <BR>> = ><BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> = pianotech list info: </FONT><A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"><FONT = face=Arial = size=2>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</FONT></A><BR><FON= T face=Arial size=2>> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>