<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sand/file the metal to roughen it. Then = wet with unthickened epoxy. Then sand the wet epoxy into the metal with 80 grit = paper. Then apply epoxy thickened with high-strength bonding filler. Strong as steel.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca = href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">John Ross</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 21, = 2004 5:55 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Vertical Damper = Lift Rail</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Hi Terry,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I am surprised, you were able to get a = good bond with the epoxy, on the metal to metal. I thought epoxy needed some roughness?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I usually solder, although, I think = siver solder would be better.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Kawai, will send you the pins, after = the first one, I got some spares. As to be expected, non have gone since.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A = href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">Farrell</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 21, = 2004 6:42 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Vertical Damper Lift = Rail</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I repaired a vertical damper lift = rail the other day. Typical thing where one of three little steel L-shaped = hookies that pivots in a flange broke off. I just made the appointment = to re-install the rail and the guy asked me what the charge was. I told = him. He didn't sound happy at all. I am expecting..... shall we say a = difference of opinions? My question (before I tell what my charge is/was) is = how much time would you charge at your normal hourly rate for such a repair?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm in Florida and rates are pretty = consistent here with most of the mid-west. I typically charge $60 an hour for = on-site service work and $50 an hour for shop work. And I think I gave him a = good deal actually.......</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The piano is a recent model = Kawai.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The tasks I had to do:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1 - diagnose problem (pretty fast = on that one)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2 - remove action</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3 - remove damper rail</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4 - replace action</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(I tuned the piano at this = first visit - so no need to charge for a service call specifically to remove the = damper rail.)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>5 - repair rail (make new L-shaped = pin, drill hole in rod, epoxy pin in place)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>6 - service call to remove action, = install rail, re-install action (25-mile round trip - I wasn't scheduled to = go out that way for two weeks and the girl that plays the piano is active = on the piano and so she wanted it back together ASAP - so this was a = special service call to that area.)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for any input.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>