<HTML><HTML>In a message dated 10/12/2004 12:38= :05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pianotuna@accesscomm.ca writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Can you tell us a bit more? Are= you tuning a 6:3 octave? 8:4? Or are you attempting to tune the "whole sound"? </BLOCKQUOTE> Greetings,             &nbs= p; You know, I've been reading all these wonderful, informative posts on tun= ing and octaves here, gleaning what I understand, but I really don't know wh= at 6:3 or 8:4 octaves means. I was taught to tune octaves by ear, by listeni= ng for what I thought was named the fundemental and making the octave 'clean= ' or beatless, then making the unison beatless as well. Then I check by doin= g an octave-minor 7th test. I guess you call them 2:1? or 4:2 octaves?? I un= derstand the overtone series and the pythagorean theory 1, 9/8, 5/4, 4/3... = and understand how a scale derives from those divisions and subdivisions as = explained in a physics class, however, I need to do more investigation. (Sha= mefully, I'm too preoccupied reading about chaos theory, relativity, The GUT= and black holes.)             &nbs= p;                &nbs= p;  I ordered a used copy, of: On the Sensations of Tone by Hemh= oltz. I know this book is a classic. I know the scope of this book is beyond= tuning and frequency basics, but, of course, being a science junkie,  = I am anxious to see what the rest of the book is about. I also rdered Reblit= z's book. I am hoping these materials will build upon, expand and clarify my= knowledge, so there's hope for me. A book titled: On Pitch was sugge= sted and I am loooking for a used copy. Julia, Reading, Pa</HTML>