<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" link="#0000EE" vlink="#551A8B" alink="#FF0000">   Antares wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Dear colleagues, my answer to al this is : Here is a colleague who asks advice about the regulation of a Steinway grand. To me, it seems, that when a colleague asks for advice about the regulation of a Steinway, he/she obviously doesn't have enough experience yet...otherwise there would be no questions about it on the list. So wouldn't it be quite normal to, in the first place, refer to an excellent service manual that has been written by Max Matthias, a Steinway expert?</blockquote> Yes yes yes.. No problem recommending him to look up specs, but it seems to me he already had the specs. Further he called Steinway and they didnt offer any help.. Sure by all means he should get the book if he doesnt already have it. . Great reference material, no doubt about it. For that matter there are several other books he should get ahold of.   <blockquote TYPE=CITE>  To me it seems unwise to talk about a refined touch when the person involved asks about key depth? or to talk about concert tuning when somebody has been tuning for maybe a couple of years?.....</blockquote> How is this unwise ?? what harm can he do ?? Who refered to concert level tunings ?? In my opionion the sooner one starts the journey towards understanding how action regulation points intereact the better. He risks nothing and has everything to gain. I mean ...  the fellow has an older "L" of unknown quality. He has applied the correct specs for keydip, then hammer to string distance in some fashion that didnt seem to add up to me. But his numbers were correct. This tells me he needs to understand whats going on. It doesnt tell me he needs to strip down the entire action and reorient it to origional factory specs, if indeed that would be possible at all given the possible wear and tear factor here. So as I stated in my origional reply.. I beg to differ.. If  I interperted your note in a stronger fashion then it was meant then,, well hey.. sorry.. grin. but re-read it yourself and I quote This instrument needs a normal Steinway regulation. With normal I mean that Steinway has  Steinway specifications, weights and measures for every part and every regulation procedure like: Key dip - hammer alignment - hammer travel - hammer spacing -  let off - hammer drop - back check - springs - hammer blow - key frame, and all the numerous other things we have to do in order to make a beautiful touch and tone. Again, to obtain these data one should buy the Steinway manual. If one doesn't, then it is like trying to drive a car without  driving lessons, usually resulting in a car accident and possibly a wreck. Seems a bit er... strongly worded to me, specially that last part, but perhaps I misread. In anycase whats the big deal. At worst we disagree,. <grin> and thats cool enough. Richard Brekne   <blockquote TYPE=CITE>  >From: Antares <antares@EURONET.NL> >> >> > >> >>I am a new piano tech and I am regulating my 1964 Steinway Model L >before >> >I >> >>sell it. The key dip is 11/32 when it should be 13/32 but the hammer >blow >> >>distance is   1 15/16 instead of 1 3/4. If I adjust the dip properly the >> >blow >> >>distance will be even larger or it will have too much after touch and if >I >> >>adjust the blow distance properly the key dip will be even less. The >piano >> >>plays well although I remember it always felt "shallow" even though I >liked >> >>that at the time.Any ideas as to what to do? I called Steinway and they >> >were >> >>no help. >> >>Thanks >> >>Larry Trop  in Orange County, CA >> >></blockquote> </body> </html>