<HTML>In a message dated 9/6/02 8:14:59 AM Central Daylight Time, Tvak@AOL.COM writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Maybe I should go in one direction for the first pass (from A0 to C8) and then go the opposite direction on the second pass!   </BLOCKQUOTE> Actually, that's a very interesting concept, that I've tried a couple of times. But for some reason, it just did appeal to me. I don't know about the rest of you, but for some reason it's easier for me to go up, even using the SAT, than it is going down. I think my ear gets more accurate when I start in the middle, or even on note one, than if I start on note 88 and go down. Anyone else have that same feeling? Wim As far as the hedge trimmer on the Betsy Ross, I would be careful. Those plastic elbows will shatter all over the place. Better wear eye protection. </HTML>