<HTML>In a message dated 1/11/02 9:56:02 AM Central Standard Time, jkanter@rollingball.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">When I was learning this trade (early 70s) my brain was "stamped" with the notion that you had to allow 90 minutes to 2 hours for a two-pass tuning, and the preferred method for pitch raising was to do a 30-minute single pass extra sharp, then come back a week later for a normal, rather long tuning. How have people gotten so much faster? What's changed? </BLOCKQUOTE> With the use of the SATIII, I can now tune a piano in about 30 - 40 minutes. An actual pitch raise I do in about 10 minutes, followed by a tuning which takes about 45 - 60 minutes. Wim </HTML>