<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Thanks for the addendum, Dave.  Your last two sentences below pretty well reflect where I come out, at least for some of these actions.  I do remember now regluing a couple jack flnages with the action still intact.  That was a little difficult to do, trying to get the alignment corrrect, but it sure beat taking everything apart.  Sometimes one has to realize that, unpleasant though it is, if you struggle with the problem long enough you'll eventually get it fixed.  There are the unfortunate exceptions, of course.... <p>Regards, <br>Clyde <p>Dave Nereson wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style> <font size=-1>to Clyde Hollinger:  That tip I gave about what worked on my W,N,& G action may not  work on some.  I seem to recall a customer's action where the lost motion compensator rod was not connected to the hammer rail by that little vertical rod.  Instead, things were more permanently mounted and the only way to get a wippen out was to remove the l.m. comp. rod altogether.</font><font size=-1>  This could be done only by a.) bending one of the hooks, similar to removing a hammer rail or, b.) removing an action bracket.  Neither option was really suitable.  The hooks were like those of a damper-lifter rod, i.e., three facing one way and one facing the other.  But they were quite a bit thicker than damper rod hooks and extremely difficult to bend, and I was afraid one might snap off.   With damper rods, you can unscrew the little mounting hanger, but the bushings for the l.m.comp. rod were in the action brackets on this particular action.  So I thought of taking off an end action bracket, but then the action wouldn't stand up by itself (I was in the home, not in my shop with an action cradle).</font><font size=-1>    I forget what the outcome was--I think I reglued the jack flange or whatever I had to do, with the wippen still in place.  I do remember puzzling a long time over it and wondering how they expected anybody to get a wippen out without dismantling the whole action.  So there's still some question about how to deal with these, or there's a trick I'm not aware of. --Dave Nereson, RPT, Denver</font></blockquote> </body> </html>