<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 9" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4CC11.7E241220" rel=File-List> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; = mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } P.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle15 { COLOR: navy; mso-style-type: personal-reply; mso-ansi-font-size: = 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; = mso-bidi-font-family: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" bgColor=#ffffff><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]><= ![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Cy, P</FONT><FONT face=Arial = size=2>oints that I have never seen mentioned about pounding in the pins , are that it = makes the piano even more unstable than with a pitch raise. It also changes = the angle of the strings going to the tuning pin. In the case of some Baldwin = acros this makes broken bass strings more likely and in some uprights, impossible = to tune some strings, as the upper most string will not let the tuning tip go on = the pin far enough to turn the pin.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So now I use CA first and tappity tap = second if needed (RARE)</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose Tools<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=741662027@theshusters.org = href="mailto:741662027@theshusters.org">Cy Shuster</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 17, = 2004 6:39 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: CA in a = hurry</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p>One point about = oversize pins vs. CA is that some old strings have such corrosion that the = string may very well break when taking the tension down, removing the coil, and = putting it back on the new, larger pin.</o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: = windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p>I was improving = the sound of bass strings on a 1923 Ellington grand by removing them from the = hitch pin and rolling a loop.  It worked great for the first 8, but just = loosening the tension and taking it back up again caused the 9th string to break = at the becket, so I bailed out right there.</o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: = windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p>With CA, that's = not a worry (but if the coils are really close to the plate, CA'ing the = string to the pin is a possibility -- even with a syringe needle!).  Plus, = CA will fill any pinblock cracks, while an oversized pin may just enlarge them.</o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: = windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p>--Cy Shuster--</o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p>Bluefield, WV</o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>