<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C4BEA3.2905D010" = rel=File-List><o:SmartTagType name="PersonName" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype> <STYLE>@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in = 1.25in; mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; = mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; 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FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply; = mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: = 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; = mso-bidi-font-family: Arial } SPAN.GramE { mso-style-name: ""; mso-gram-e: yes } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=purple = link=blue> <DIV><SPAN class=780593800-31102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>As soon as I can, I plan on getting my hands on a pocket-pc oriented ETD, = not to quit aural tuning, but to find that happy medium and correct = inconsistencies between the two styles. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=780593800-31102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>-ilex</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>David Love<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:09 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Pianotech'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Sharp Treble: was RE: OT: Is this still = a piano oriented list orwhat?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes">I may simply = be a difference of tuning style.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  = </SPAN>Some tuners tune wider octaves which will result in sharper treble. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I found that when I was = tuning aurally I tended to tune with less stretch than ETD’s often program.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  = </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: = yes"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes">David Love<BR></SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: = yes">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes"> </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times = New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">PIANO TOPIC - </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">Why do I often find myself correcting over-sharp high treble on pianos someone = else has tuned? I know by the time you get to the last 1-2 octaves, they're = going to be sharpish if you've correctly stretched your octaves, but even so, I'm = still bringing it down. Is the high treble more inclined to go super-sharp = with humidity due to the short scale, or am I legitimately cleaning up = after over-compensation?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial = color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial">How do you aural tuners out there make out your octaves in that highest = treble zone? Can you describe what you're hearing? I know that for me, I am = listening with a tuner's ear and checking with a musician's ear at that point. 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