<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">David,call Baldwin Tech Service at (870) 483-6111 ex.236,you can order Baldwin regular grand whippens and Renner whippens for the SDor SF-10 grands. George Fiore S.New Jersey chapter</FONT></HTML>