<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type = content=text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1528" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY text=#000000 bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi, </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm new to tuning too</FONT><FONT = face=Arial size=2> and I don't have a tuning fork yet, I'd like to = try the vacuum cleaner tuning first.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>a few questions : </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1/ I suppose all = vacuum cleaners are not tuned on the same pitch. Is there a Vacuum Cleaner tone Reference = List (VCTRL) available somewhere on the net ? Does this also word with = kitchen vacuum ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2/ I suppose the pitch depends on the temperature... Should I wait for my Vacuum cleaner to stabilise ? = How long ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3/ I'm in europe and we are supplied in = 220V 50Hz. Do you think this can make a difference in pitch for the same model of = vacuum cleaner between Europe and US ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4/ If for any reason I had to use = a supplemental power supply cable... Is there a risk that it infuences my reference pitch ? Should I pay attention to this ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>5/ May I use the same vacuum = cleaner for the tone reference and to clean the piano ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you for you answers, = </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Philippe</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianotune05@comcast.net href="mailto:pianotune05@comcast.net">pianotune05</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=tcole@cruzio.com = href="mailto:tcole@cruzio.com">tcole@cruzio.com</A> ; <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech = List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 02, 2006 = 12:01 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: beginner seeking advice</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>I think the vacuum I used earlier was at a440 = or close.  It was a different pitch on the low setting. Does anyone = here own an Oreck?  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Marshall</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tcole@cruzio.com href="mailto:tcole@cruzio.com">Thomas = Cole</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech List</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 01, = 2006 4:06 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: beginner seeking = advice</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>A and F natural here on the left coast. A is dead on = 440 according to my CyberFork.<BR><BR>Tom Cole<BR><BR><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated = href="mailto:Tvak@aol.com">Tvak@aol.com</A> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid23d.7c03ede.31365262@aol.com = type="cite"><PRE wrap=""> In a message dated 2/28/2006 11:54:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated = href="mailto:tune4u@earthlink.net">tune4u@earthlink.net</A> writes: </PRE> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">A land-line telephone. = (The dial tone is an A) </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""> Actually, there are two tones, an A and an F#. At least in Chicago, = that's the case, and in fact, the F# seems a bit louder than the A. = So...maybe that might work down in Missouri...but I doubt it...you'd have = to...uh...'show me'. Tom Sivak Chicago </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>